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I installed Fedora Linux recently and used it for a few days. I did not spot a single bug, despite using it in a quite heavy scenario (Docker, Android Emulator,

I installed Fedora Linux recently and used it for a few days. I did not spot a single bug, despite using it in a quite heavy scenario (Docker, Android Emulator, IDE, big file transfers). For example Windows had issues with sound drivers and GPU drivers, Linux is rock stable. Also it was as easy as macOS install: I just installed it in a 5 minutes and it was ready to work. With Windows I had to spent hours to install all the drivers from the manufacturer website (I tried to let Windows to install their own drivers, but it did not find all the necessary drivers). I have few issues with some Linux UI choices, for example I don't like Gnome 3 UI. But that's not a bug.

willtim 5y ago
That's really good to hear. Perhaps I need to stop using fringe distros like NixOS.
- vereis 5y ago
  This works until something does go wrong. At least with NixOS you can simply roll back!
  - vbezhenar 5y ago
    Fedora uses btrfs by default. I don't think that snapshots are enabled by default, but quick googling reveals some instructions which should enable snapshots for updates. I guess that might help to achieve similar behaviour.
    - willtim 5y ago
      I don't think btrfs is a shining example of Linux stability/reliability. NixOS gives me rollbacks using XFS for root.
    - danieldk 5y ago
      Or, if you want to use Fedora, try Fedora Silverblue [1]. It uses an immutable root filesystem and offers atomic updates and rollbacks through OSTree. [1] https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/
  - KozmoNau7 5y ago
    This is one of the reasons why I use openSUSE, it has automatic btrfs snapshots that let you roll back in case anything breaks. Tumbleweed is already one of the most stable rolling-release distros, and I haven't had anything break yet, but it's nice to have regular snapshots as an an extra layer of safety.
samuell 5y ago
I have solved the last "bug" by using xubuntu, which has an astonishingly stable, coherent and well integrated xfce desktop experience. There something similar for Fedora perhaps?
- techrat 5y ago
  xUbuntu really is one of the better polished distros. When I had a spare laptop, I tried some distrohopping on it. Little quirks existed in most distros but it just felt like xUbuntu was the most (for the lack of better words) sane overall. Everything I'd change in XFCE on another distro was essentially what xUbuntu had configured by default. The only thing I've had to do after installation, aside from installing my apps from repos, is to add the Mainline PPA and update the kernel to newest just to take advantage of newer kernel drivers for some of my hardware. Other than that, everything is there and everything works.
MonaroVXR 5y ago
Did you use Docker or Podman? because Podman is the thing available on Fedora and isn't even in the repositories.
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  I used docker, that's what I used before. I'm aware of podman, but did not try to use it. But thanks for suggestion, I'll look into it. PS I just tried to use it. I've got some permission denied errors from containers which were not present with docker. I guess podman is not ready as a complete replacement of docker for me.
  - MonaroVXR 5y ago
    It wasn't a suggestion, because it doesn't have all the features that many people utilized in the Docker ecosystem. Like Docker-compose. (Right now on 22 May 2021.) it's not ready for replacement.
    - vbezhenar 5y ago
      There's podman-compose which seems to almost work for me, but not completely, yep. If I would write containers myself from the scratch, I'd definitely try to ensure that podman works. But I'm using containers from other people, so I have to live with that for now.
  - curt15 5y ago
    Isn't docker a symlink to podman on Fedora these days?
    - vbezhenar 5y ago
      I installed docker from the docker repository, it's definitely not a symlink to podman on my system right now. I did not check whether that symlink existed before docker installation, but I doubt about that.
    - MonaroVXR 5y ago

willtim 5y ago

That's really good to hear. Perhaps I need to stop using fringe distros like NixOS.

vereis 5y ago
This works until something does go wrong. At least with NixOS you can simply roll back!
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  Fedora uses btrfs by default. I don't think that snapshots are enabled by default, but quick googling reveals some instructions which should enable snapshots for updates. I guess that might help to achieve similar behaviour.
  - willtim 5y ago
    I don't think btrfs is a shining example of Linux stability/reliability. NixOS gives me rollbacks using XFS for root.
  - danieldk 5y ago
    Or, if you want to use Fedora, try Fedora Silverblue [1]. It uses an immutable root filesystem and offers atomic updates and rollbacks through OSTree. [1] https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/ https://silverblue.fedoraproject.org/
- KozmoNau7 5y ago
  This is one of the reasons why I use openSUSE, it has automatic btrfs snapshots that let you roll back in case anything breaks. Tumbleweed is already one of the most stable rolling-release distros, and I haven't had anything break yet, but it's nice to have regular snapshots as an an extra layer of safety.

samuell 5y ago

I have solved the last "bug" by using xubuntu, which has an astonishingly stable, coherent and well integrated xfce desktop experience. There something similar for Fedora perhaps?

techrat 5y ago
xUbuntu really is one of the better polished distros. When I had a spare laptop, I tried some distrohopping on it. Little quirks existed in most distros but it just felt like xUbuntu was the most (for the lack of better words) sane overall. Everything I'd change in XFCE on another distro was essentially what xUbuntu had configured by default. The only thing I've had to do after installation, aside from installing my apps from repos, is to add the Mainline PPA and update the kernel to newest just to take advantage of newer kernel drivers for some of my hardware. Other than that, everything is there and everything works.

MonaroVXR 5y ago

Did you use Docker or Podman? because Podman is the thing available on Fedora and isn't even in the repositories.

vbezhenar 5y ago
I used docker, that's what I used before. I'm aware of podman, but did not try to use it. But thanks for suggestion, I'll look into it. PS I just tried to use it. I've got some permission denied errors from containers which were not present with docker. I guess podman is not ready as a complete replacement of docker for me.
- MonaroVXR 5y ago
  It wasn't a suggestion, because it doesn't have all the features that many people utilized in the Docker ecosystem. Like Docker-compose. (Right now on 22 May 2021.) it's not ready for replacement.
  - vbezhenar 5y ago
    There's podman-compose which seems to almost work for me, but not completely, yep. If I would write containers myself from the scratch, I'd definitely try to ensure that podman works. But I'm using containers from other people, so I have to live with that for now.
- curt15 5y ago
  Isn't docker a symlink to podman on Fedora these days?
  - vbezhenar 5y ago
    I installed docker from the docker repository, it's definitely not a symlink to podman on my system right now. I did not check whether that symlink existed before docker installation, but I doubt about that.
  - MonaroVXR 5y ago