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Robot paramedic carries out CPR in ambulance in UK
- tastroder 5y agoWhile not headline-worthy I'm not aware of which definition of "robot" CPR machines are supposed to fall. They're pretty well studied at this point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoPulse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoPulse
- neartheplain 5y agoAs a professor of robotics once told me, "If it doesn't work (yet), it's a robot. Once it works it's just called a machine." See also: dishwashing robot, bread-toasting robot, clothes-drying robot, etc.
- david-gpu 5y agoSame thing with AI: once machines can do it then it is no longer intelligence.
- rozab 5y agoA professor of robotics once told me that these things are not robots because they do work within an internal, controlled environment. A robot instead operates in or interacts with an external, uncontrolled environment. I don't think this thing would count as a robot in any sense unless there's some sophisticated sensory processing going on.
- _x33p 5y agoGood for the UK for finally adopting LUCAS, but they are quite behind other countries like Germany and the US in this. As an ex-medic, doing CPR can for extended periods can be tiring, and given the limited amount of man power in deployments, the more that can be automated the better.
- vultour 5y agoThey’ve been using this for years, I’ve seen it myself. The headline is misleading.
- Haemm0r 5y agoIn Austria these units are part of the paramedics equipment for years. They are especially convenient while moving the patient on the strecher (no kneeling anymore :) )
- tinus_hn 5y agoThe consistency is probably a bonus as well.
- krts- 5y agoThe headline is misleading. Mechanical CPR devices have been utilised for years in the UK. The major LUCAS clinical trial [1] was run in the UK. The ‘first’ relates to the version used: LUCAS 3. This has no performance difference but adds ‘smart’ features via Bluetooth. This is also misleading, as the LUCAS 3 has been available in other services. [1] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)61886-9/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
- JshWright 5y agoYeah, "misleading" is generous here. It's flat out wrong. Perhaps this article was also written by a "robot".
- rscho 5y agoYes, but it makes for new publications ! That's the important thing, right? Right?
- tremon 5y agoNot only that, the article isn't about the robot carrying out anything. This is about the ambulances starting to carry this particular machine, not about the machine actually having been deployed.
- dang 5y agoOk, we've de-firsted the title above.
- ultrastable 5y agoI don't know anything about Bluetooth security but I'm assuming adding it to a lifesaving device isn't necessarily an improvement?
- bobowzki 5y agoI have used LUCAS lots of times. It's routine.
- gmoore 5y agoMisleading article - we were using the Thumper for mechanical CPR in the early 80's There's on on eBay today :) https://www.ebay.com/itm/154453426364?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=154453426364&targetid=1263584873419&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9028279&poi=&campaignid=12593971577&mkgroupid=122298801357&rlsatarget=pla-1263584873419&abcId=9300522&merchantid=8595504&gclid=Cj0KCQjw16KFBhCgARIsALB0g8JYEJQXiBCgZQ0PCuVKwSur15ZuGY9Yq3V2HsE4kuSH_vcW9o9-DycaAoIWEALw_wcB https://www.ebay.com/itm/154453426364?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt...