3 ms·

Say you are the person who doesn't like one of your co-workers. Whatever reason, maybe they remind you of someone who treated you poorly. Maybe you just don't h

by imgabe 5y ago

Say you are the person who doesn't like one of your co-workers. Whatever reason, maybe they remind you of someone who treated you poorly. Maybe you just don't have compatible personalities. Whatever it is, something about them irks you. Still, you're a professional, so you treat them with the same respect and courtesy you treat everyone else. You vent your feelings on your livejournal or whatever. Keeping things anonymous, but your co-worker finds it and demands that you be fired. Should you be fired?

didibus 5y ago
You haven't answered my scenario. I'm just asking if in those circumstances I've described, if you'd still feel at ease and totally happy going to work pretending like none of it. Or if that knowledge of the hate your manager exhibits for people of your kind would make you resent working with them? This is the first thing I need to know, because I personally would not be able to walk in to work motivated and energetic after that, I'd be very uncomfortable from that point on working under that manager knowing what I now know is their opinion of people like me. If you'd be fine with this and have no issue going back to work for that manager. Well it'll be hard for us to agree on anything that follows. Now if this would also make you uncomfortable, we can move to the next point, which is, how should this situation be resolved? You now have a manager making their subordinate uncomfortable at work. They do so because of their publicly expressed hate, disdain, resentment and desire to oppress people of the same kind as the subordinate. As the employer, what do you think would be the right solution here? P.S.: I'm asking in good faith, I think it's a complex situation, I'm not saying that firing the manager is the best course of action, but it does seem like one way to solve the issue, so I'm actually curious to hear pros/cons and alternatives.
- imgabe 5y ago
  If the manager continued to treat me professionally and fairly, why should I have a problem with their personal opinions? I'm not there to debate social issues, I'm there to do a job and make a living. As long as I can continue to do that, what does it matter what someone is thinking? If you let your work and motivation for your own career get derailed by people's unexpressed opinions (that you went out of your way to hunt down for--what? to find something to be offended about?), that is something you should work on.
- kortilla 5y ago
  It’s not complex. It’s none of your business what people think about you. You might be shocked to find out that most people think some pretty fundamentally incompatible beliefs and look pretty harshly down on people outside of their realm of beliefs. Look at the stats on how many Muslims in the US ideally want Sharia as national law. Look at how many Christians desperately try to make the US Christian roots official and foam at the mouth when someone says “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”. Everyone thinks about half the other people are dog shit. That’s how the US works. It’s a thin veneer of camaraderie over a seething dissonance underneath.

by imgabe 5y ago

didibus 5y ago

You haven't answered my scenario. I'm just asking if in those circumstances I've described, if you'd still feel at ease and totally happy going to work pretending like none of it. Or if that knowledge of the hate your manager exhibits for people of your kind would make you resent working with them? This is the first thing I need to know, because I personally would not be able to walk in to work motivated and energetic after that, I'd be very uncomfortable from that point on working under that manager knowing what I now know is their opinion of people like me. If you'd be fine with this and have no issue going back to work for that manager. Well it'll be hard for us to agree on anything that follows. Now if this would also make you uncomfortable, we can move to the next point, which is, how should this situation be resolved? You now have a manager making their subordinate uncomfortable at work. They do so because of their publicly expressed hate, disdain, resentment and desire to oppress people of the same kind as the subordinate. As the employer, what do you think would be the right solution here? P.S.: I'm asking in good faith, I think it's a complex situation, I'm not saying that firing the manager is the best course of action, but it does seem like one way to solve the issue, so I'm actually curious to hear pros/cons and alternatives.

imgabe 5y ago
If the manager continued to treat me professionally and fairly, why should I have a problem with their personal opinions? I'm not there to debate social issues, I'm there to do a job and make a living. As long as I can continue to do that, what does it matter what someone is thinking? If you let your work and motivation for your own career get derailed by people's unexpressed opinions (that you went out of your way to hunt down for--what? to find something to be offended about?), that is something you should work on.
kortilla 5y ago
It’s not complex. It’s none of your business what people think about you. You might be shocked to find out that most people think some pretty fundamentally incompatible beliefs and look pretty harshly down on people outside of their realm of beliefs. Look at the stats on how many Muslims in the US ideally want Sharia as national law. Look at how many Christians desperately try to make the US Christian roots official and foam at the mouth when someone says “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”. Everyone thinks about half the other people are dog shit. That’s how the US works. It’s a thin veneer of camaraderie over a seething dissonance underneath.