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That's incredible. Since translation can be done this way too, it may truly be a short time until widespread use of babel-fish tech becomes reality. What a wor

That's incredible. Since translation can be done this way too, it may truly be a short time until widespread use of babel-fish tech becomes reality. What a world!

croes 5y ago
Nope, like autonmous driving the problem will be the last 20%
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  Just because one overhyped tech is not working out does not mean all new tech will fail. We already have noise cancellation, good tiny batteries, fast wireless internet, and all the tech to learn spoken languages without supervision! Autonomous driving has a much higher bar for accuracy.
  - croes 5y ago
    Are you sure? A translation error played part in the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. https://pangeanic.com/knowledge/the-worst-translation-mistake-in-history/ https://pangeanic.com/knowledge/the-worst-translation-mistak... Language has great ambiguity, depends heavily on time period, context and tone. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2chfge/you_need_some_solid_dick_from_iron_man_captain/ https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2chfge/you_need_some... That could lead to problems even without translation.
    - DennisP 5y ago
      So maybe don't use the tech yet in such high-stakes situations. In my personal life, an automated translation error is very unlikely to cause a serious problem, while an automated driving error could kill me. (Fwiw, if you read the comments at your second link, you'll find the image is a fake.)
      - croes 5y ago
        Same for autonmous driving. Don't use it on the highway but in the city. Lower speed, lower risk of dying. Fake or not, doesn't make my point invalid.
strikelaserclaw 5y ago
Babelfish like technology would be a dream come true for me. At this point in time, google translate speech recognition works well when the speaker speaks a bit slow and uses simple sentences. The translation is the same, works well for simple sentences even though the translations in my language sound weird because it uses the equivalent of old English. There is still a way to go before speech recognition can recognize fast speech with colloquialisms, and probably even a longer way to go before it can translate longer sentences with abstractions into something that is clear and concise in the target language.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  > There is still a way to go before speech recognition can recognize fast speech with colloquialisms, and probably even a longer way to go before it can translate longer sentences with abstractions into something that is clear and concise in the target language. Did you watch the video tweeted by Facebook's CTO? https://twitter.com/schrep/status/1395766932104572928 https://twitter.com/schrep/status/1395766932104572928 The speed, accent, and word choices of the speaker would throw off previous state-of-the-art tech. The amazing thing about this new unsupervised algorithm is they can throw unlimited amounts of unlabeled audio and text at a computer and wait for it to become great. It's not AGI but it is still amazing. Language detection is also already solved so there really is no labeling required.
  - mycall 5y ago
    I wonder if this or similar tech can be used for animals.

That's incredible. Since translation can be done this way too, it may truly be a short time until widespread use of babel-fish tech becomes reality. What a world!

croes 5y ago

Nope, like autonmous driving the problem will be the last 20%

unityByFreedom 5y ago
Just because one overhyped tech is not working out does not mean all new tech will fail. We already have noise cancellation, good tiny batteries, fast wireless internet, and all the tech to learn spoken languages without supervision! Autonomous driving has a much higher bar for accuracy.
- croes 5y ago
  Are you sure? A translation error played part in the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. https://pangeanic.com/knowledge/the-worst-translation-mistake-in-history/ https://pangeanic.com/knowledge/the-worst-translation-mistak... Language has great ambiguity, depends heavily on time period, context and tone. https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2chfge/you_need_some_solid_dick_from_iron_man_captain/ https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2chfge/you_need_some... That could lead to problems even without translation.
  - DennisP 5y ago
    So maybe don't use the tech yet in such high-stakes situations. In my personal life, an automated translation error is very unlikely to cause a serious problem, while an automated driving error could kill me. (Fwiw, if you read the comments at your second link, you'll find the image is a fake.)
    - croes 5y ago
      Same for autonmous driving. Don't use it on the highway but in the city. Lower speed, lower risk of dying. Fake or not, doesn't make my point invalid.

strikelaserclaw 5y ago

Babelfish like technology would be a dream come true for me. At this point in time, google translate speech recognition works well when the speaker speaks a bit slow and uses simple sentences. The translation is the same, works well for simple sentences even though the translations in my language sound weird because it uses the equivalent of old English. There is still a way to go before speech recognition can recognize fast speech with colloquialisms, and probably even a longer way to go before it can translate longer sentences with abstractions into something that is clear and concise in the target language.

unityByFreedom 5y ago
> There is still a way to go before speech recognition can recognize fast speech with colloquialisms, and probably even a longer way to go before it can translate longer sentences with abstractions into something that is clear and concise in the target language. Did you watch the video tweeted by Facebook's CTO? https://twitter.com/schrep/status/1395766932104572928 https://twitter.com/schrep/status/1395766932104572928 The speed, accent, and word choices of the speaker would throw off previous state-of-the-art tech. The amazing thing about this new unsupervised algorithm is they can throw unlimited amounts of unlabeled audio and text at a computer and wait for it to become great. It's not AGI but it is still amazing. Language detection is also already solved so there really is no labeling required.
- mycall 5y ago
  I wonder if this or similar tech can be used for animals.