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Wow. Hilarious. I was one of the original commenters on that thread and stopped following when I returned my - fully loaded - $$$$ - 16” MBP. I think I’ll be gl

Wow. Hilarious. I was one of the original commenters on that thread and stopped following when I returned my - fully loaded - $$$$ - 16” MBP. I think I’ll be glad I returned it because M1 is awesome, but god damn. Why can’t Apple fix this? You figure they would get the idea when I return an ungodly expensive machine and tell them this is the reason. Christ.

seam_carver 5y ago
Were you using a 1440p monitor, out of curiosity?
- ideamotor 5y ago
  Yes I was. And actually, now I’m using a 1600p ultrawide with the M1 and it’s completely silent.
  - seam_carver 5y ago
    Wow, you got wrecked by a 1440p specific bug.
imwally 5y ago
This is the reason I swapped my 16” for the M1 Air. The silence is bliss.
sicromoft 5y ago
> You figure they would get the idea when I return an ungodly expensive machine and tell them this is the reason. You would hope so, but behemoths like Apple just don't care and don't have to. I'm guessing it would take thousands of returns before it even made a blip on their radar.
- seam_carver 5y ago
  Probably just very few people have 1440p monitors I guess.
  - merb 5y ago
    the problem is that NO monitor works. it's not a bug just with 1440p, once you connect an external monitor it jumps without closing the lid. I use two 1080p monitors, but a single one does not work, aswell, closing the lid fixes the problem
jldugger 5y ago
> Why can’t Apple fix this? You figure they would get the idea when I return an ungodly expensive machine and tell them this is the reason. Christ. Because they give all their devs 5k displays.
- ideamotor 5y ago
  As a dev . . . Yep. Stop using a damn scaled down netbook for my desktop app! Oh wait, I’m part of the problem. Ahhh! Edit: well we have uh fewer employees …
distalx 5y ago
Hey! How were you able to return it? My MBP 16' gets really hot without an external monitor. And I'm getting nowhere with my complaints.
- ideamotor 5y ago
  I returned it within the original return window.
- krono 5y ago
  Haven't really persued a solution to these gpu/heat/noise issues yet. Though, a few months ago I had contacted Apple about a different matter and mentioned these problems to the agent who then told me that was the first time they and their colleagues had heard of this issue. Their tone and the very many words they used to convey this told a different story. Going to be an interesting case when I finally have time to get this sorted. Edit: Not saying it's company policy to deny this issue exists. It could just have been this agent not wanting to deal with it (maybe because it'd end up in a concession which would look bad on his profile?)
rythie 5y ago
It might be a problem in the graphics driver, in which case AMD would need to solve it.
- deergomoo 5y ago
  I followed the Macrumors thread for a good while and there was speculation that it might even have been a hardware flaw; something about needing to run the memory clock at full speed to prevent flickering when driving different resolution screens. Apparently there are some AMD desktop GPUs that exhibit similar behaviour, but obviously an extra 15-20W draw is far less of an issue in a desktop than a thin laptop. Either way, this machine is coming up on two years old. It’s not gonna be fixed, ever. I already sold mine because of it.

seam_carver 5y ago

Were you using a 1440p monitor, out of curiosity?

ideamotor 5y ago
Yes I was. And actually, now I’m using a 1600p ultrawide with the M1 and it’s completely silent.
- seam_carver 5y ago
  Wow, you got wrecked by a 1440p specific bug.

imwally 5y ago

This is the reason I swapped my 16” for the M1 Air. The silence is bliss.

sicromoft 5y ago

> You figure they would get the idea when I return an ungodly expensive machine and tell them this is the reason. You would hope so, but behemoths like Apple just don't care and don't have to. I'm guessing it would take thousands of returns before it even made a blip on their radar.

seam_carver 5y ago
Probably just very few people have 1440p monitors I guess.
- merb 5y ago
  the problem is that NO monitor works. it's not a bug just with 1440p, once you connect an external monitor it jumps without closing the lid. I use two 1080p monitors, but a single one does not work, aswell, closing the lid fixes the problem

jldugger 5y ago

> Why can’t Apple fix this? You figure they would get the idea when I return an ungodly expensive machine and tell them this is the reason. Christ. Because they give all their devs 5k displays.

ideamotor 5y ago
As a dev . . . Yep. Stop using a damn scaled down netbook for my desktop app! Oh wait, I’m part of the problem. Ahhh! Edit: well we have uh fewer employees …

distalx 5y ago

Hey! How were you able to return it? My MBP 16' gets really hot without an external monitor. And I'm getting nowhere with my complaints.

ideamotor 5y ago
I returned it within the original return window.
krono 5y ago
Haven't really persued a solution to these gpu/heat/noise issues yet. Though, a few months ago I had contacted Apple about a different matter and mentioned these problems to the agent who then told me that was the first time they and their colleagues had heard of this issue. Their tone and the very many words they used to convey this told a different story. Going to be an interesting case when I finally have time to get this sorted. Edit: Not saying it's company policy to deny this issue exists. It could just have been this agent not wanting to deal with it (maybe because it'd end up in a concession which would look bad on his profile?)

rythie 5y ago

It might be a problem in the graphics driver, in which case AMD would need to solve it.

deergomoo 5y ago
I followed the Macrumors thread for a good while and there was speculation that it might even have been a hardware flaw; something about needing to run the memory clock at full speed to prevent flickering when driving different resolution screens. Apparently there are some AMD desktop GPUs that exhibit similar behaviour, but obviously an extra 15-20W draw is far less of an issue in a desktop than a thin laptop. Either way, this machine is coming up on two years old. It’s not gonna be fixed, ever. I already sold mine because of it.