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The workplace is 8+ hours of most people's day. You cannot divorce it from the very real problems that exist in the world.

smegger001 5y ago
honestly i think the problem here is the standard 40 work week monopolizing societies time. in the last 50 years worker productivity has shot up but the hours worked have stayed the same. we have multiple studies showing greater productivity with shorter work days or shorter work weeks but we insist on keeping 40 hour 5 day weeks. If people had more time outside of work they could do this outside of work.
- tolbish 5y ago
  I think we're encouraged to reflexively refuse that notion. But if we consider its feasibility, everything kind of makes sense. But that initial reflexive urge to reject the reality you painted is interesting. There is a bit of a chilling effect going on, for sure.
paul_f 5y ago
Actually you can. And it has been done successfully for decades. Proselytizing has no place in the workplace.
- kulig 5y ago
  If it were for people like you we'd still be working 18 hour days from the age of 7 until death
- halostatue 5y ago
  …for mostly straight white men, making more money than more qualified women while getting away with sexual harassment. Advocating for equal treatment isn’t proselytization, it’s asking for treatment like an equal human being.
  - PurpleFoxy 5y ago
    “Straight white man” has become a buzzword now. Is there any evidence that any of these companies trying to ban politics were oppressing gay people? As a gay person in tech I have never felt oppressed or heard anyone else report such a thing. If Basecamp was engaging in this kind of discrimination then the story would be very different.
  - akomtu 5y ago
    I'm imagining right now how this spherical bad white man spends a day harassing everyone with sexism, then at 5 pm grabs an envelope with a fat day pay, turns to the more qualified woman sitting next to him, makes a disgusting self entitled smile, and on his way to the exit gives a high five to his even whiter boss.

smegger001 5y ago

honestly i think the problem here is the standard 40 work week monopolizing societies time. in the last 50 years worker productivity has shot up but the hours worked have stayed the same. we have multiple studies showing greater productivity with shorter work days or shorter work weeks but we insist on keeping 40 hour 5 day weeks. If people had more time outside of work they could do this outside of work.

tolbish 5y ago
I think we're encouraged to reflexively refuse that notion. But if we consider its feasibility, everything kind of makes sense. But that initial reflexive urge to reject the reality you painted is interesting. There is a bit of a chilling effect going on, for sure.

paul_f 5y ago

Actually you can. And it has been done successfully for decades. Proselytizing has no place in the workplace.

kulig 5y ago
If it were for people like you we'd still be working 18 hour days from the age of 7 until death
halostatue 5y ago
…for mostly straight white men, making more money than more qualified women while getting away with sexual harassment. Advocating for equal treatment isn’t proselytization, it’s asking for treatment like an equal human being.
- PurpleFoxy 5y ago
  “Straight white man” has become a buzzword now. Is there any evidence that any of these companies trying to ban politics were oppressing gay people? As a gay person in tech I have never felt oppressed or heard anyone else report such a thing. If Basecamp was engaging in this kind of discrimination then the story would be very different.
- akomtu 5y ago
  I'm imagining right now how this spherical bad white man spends a day harassing everyone with sexism, then at 5 pm grabs an envelope with a fat day pay, turns to the more qualified woman sitting next to him, makes a disgusting self entitled smile, and on his way to the exit gives a high five to his even whiter boss.