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It seems that you think I'm referencing a contrived example to prove my point, when in reality I'm referencing the actual donation gifts for the vast majority o

It seems that you think I'm referencing a contrived example to prove my point, when in reality I'm referencing the actual donation gifts for the vast majority of Hot Tub Streamers (which, please note, is not "people that sometimes stream in a hot tub", but is now a specific genre of stream of which many people exclusively stream). People have been sometimes streaming from hot tubs for years, and it's always been the exact grey area you're describing. Only very recently has it turned into a hypersexualized scenario, which is why Twitch is putting out more content condoning it. > You seem to not understand that there is gray area. I do. You don't seem to understand that the vast majority of the streams this change will encapsulate are not grey at all.

robbrown451 5y ago
So how would you set the rules if you were running twitch?
- void_mint 5y ago
  Well, I'm the wrong person to ask because I think my interests are actually oppositional to Twitch's goals but: I'd update ToS to ban nudity and literal sexual behavior (aka people cannot masturbate or use sex toys on stream), but relax the ToS to allow sexually suggestive content like hot tub streams, pole dancing, etc (basically just actualizing the ToS against the current unwritten rules). I'd probably move sexually suggestive content to a section of the site that gets their own ads (or no ads at all) and an updated revenue share to supplement the damage to Twitch's perceived brand and ad loss. Also, the NSFW area of the site is gatekept behind various age checks and doesn't get advertised on the main site (meaning, sexually suggestive streamers don't show up on the front page). With these updates, the ToS becomes legitimate, sexually suggestive content is no longer in violation, the site gets more appropriately segregated (gaming vs. sex). Win/win.

robbrown451 5y ago

So how would you set the rules if you were running twitch?

void_mint 5y ago
Well, I'm the wrong person to ask because I think my interests are actually oppositional to Twitch's goals but: I'd update ToS to ban nudity and literal sexual behavior (aka people cannot masturbate or use sex toys on stream), but relax the ToS to allow sexually suggestive content like hot tub streams, pole dancing, etc (basically just actualizing the ToS against the current unwritten rules). I'd probably move sexually suggestive content to a section of the site that gets their own ads (or no ads at all) and an updated revenue share to supplement the damage to Twitch's perceived brand and ad loss. Also, the NSFW area of the site is gatekept behind various age checks and doesn't get advertised on the main site (meaning, sexually suggestive streamers don't show up on the front page). With these updates, the ToS becomes legitimate, sexually suggestive content is no longer in violation, the site gets more appropriately segregated (gaming vs. sex). Win/win.