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It's more like, if you buy a Ford car, does Taco Bell owe 30% to Ford when you use their drive through? Or can Ford forbid Taco Bell from operating drive throu

• asda_ 5y ago
  I mean, you can use the amazon website on the iphone and circumvent all the limitations for example. They want to use the platform apple provides to create apps (good user experiences). So, this analogy doesn't seem apt to me
• Angostura 5y ago
  Should Taco Bell be legally required to let MacDonalds set up stall rent-free in their stores?
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  • stale2002 5y ago
    This is a false analogy. People who purchased a phone, own that phone. Apple doesn't own it anymore. Thats the difference. McDonald's own the store. But they don't own your car. And similarly, Apple does not own your phone, but they go to great efforts to prevent you from using other app stores.
    • slver 5y ago
      You own a phone yes. But you don’t own iOS. So take your own phone and install your own OS on it if that’s what you want.
      • stale2002 5y ago
        Ok, and people should be allowed to install whatever they want on their own hardware. We don't need to force Apple to put apps on its app store. Instead, people should be allowed to install whatever they want on the hardware that they own. > So take your own phone and install your own OS Or, instead of that, we could use the court system, to stop illegal anti-competitive practices, and require, by the existing law, that people are allowed to do what they want with their own phone.
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        • slver 5y ago
          You can do whatever you want with your phone already. As I said you don’t own iOS. Install your own OS.
          • stale2002 5y ago
            > You can do whatever you want with your phone already. But, with the court decision, it will become much easier to install other app stores on the phone, if Apple's actions are ruled illegal anti-competitive. Thats the point. The illegal anti-competitive behavior, that makes it more difficult for people to install other software, could be blocked by the courts. At which people, people will be able to install other app stores, while also having iOS on their phone. That sounds like a much better solution to all of this. Everyone gets what they want, and can now more easily install things on the phone that they own.
            • slver 5y ago
              I don’t get what I want. I want Apple to control their ecosystem. It significantly altered the iPhone experience for the better imho and this is why I buy the products. A store in a store is like a country in a country. I declare myself a country now laws no longer apply to me. How would that work for society. And you already had what you want. It’s full of phones where you can install whatever. Why should you force Apple to offer a product they don’t want to?
• slver 5y ago
  Look I don't know about Taco Bell, does it come installed in your car, like you push a button and a taco comes out from your dashboard? Because that's the only case this terrible example makes sense. If you get a job through a phone interview, do you owe Apple 30% of your salary? No. Using your phone's services doesn't cause Apple to get a cut of anything that happens while you do so. Selling apps THROUGH ITS OWN STORE does.
• kbelder 5y ago
  When we have self-driving cars, can Ford, Tesla, etc., require businesses to pay them a stipend to allow our cars to drive to those stores? "No, you can't drive to Walmart; Walmart isn't in the destination store. You may drive to Target."
  • slver 5y ago
    You’re making a category error. A car’s ecosystem is the road system. Roads don’t let you anywhere, there has to be a road there. Sometimes a paid one.