> stodgy old engineers have always (and will always) resist the bar being lowered and newcomers being admitted. I try not be elitist or unwelcoming to newcomer

> stodgy old engineers have always (and will always) resist the bar being lowered and newcomers being admitted. I try not be elitist or unwelcoming to newcomers, but yeah uh why should we lower the bar? Are the newcomers somehow incapable of learning engineering at the same level that the old ones did? Its no fun to work with people who aren't as motivated and cry for a lower bar instead of rising to the challenge. Its easy to work with someone more motivated than you but it sucks to work with someone less motivated.