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Something that'd disincentivize or prevent him from doing it again. Ideally detain him and rehabilitate him. Barring that, track him and have people ready to ph

Something that'd disincentivize or prevent him from doing it again. Ideally detain him and rehabilitate him. Barring that, track him and have people ready to physically intervene when he attacks someone. It's unpleasant to be physically assaulted, and I'd like to avoid it in the future.

jeffbee 5y ago
That might work in Somalia but for a private entity to detain a person on the say-so of another private person would obviously violate the civil rights of the 2nd party.
- scarmig 5y ago
  It also violates the civil rights of a private entity if someone beats and attacks him on the street, doesn't it?
throwaway292893 5y ago
File a police report. Move somewhere the local government backs their police and they do their job. What you want is the ability to pay to get expedited help, to which I say is that the fair option to those who can't afford to pay for protection?
- scarmig 5y ago
  The idea that police help in situations like this betrays a lack of experience living in San Francisco. Ideally everyone would be protected from random attacks on the street, not just those able to pay.
  - throwaway292893 5y ago
    > Ideally everyone would be protected from random attacks on the street, not just those able to pay. Exactly. You are advocating for a paid service, some sort of commercial company to do the enforcement. How do you think they'd generate revenue otherwise? Currently San Francisco is setup that way, you pay private security because the cops are useless. That's not like that everywhere. You should fix your police, not bandaid fix the problem for the people who can afford it while leaving the people who can't to suffer.
kelnos 5y ago
Response time isn't zero, though. Likely the attacker would be long gone before these people show up. I agree it's unpleasant being physically assaulted on the street (happened to me 8 years ago and I still think about it often), as is the utter lack of interest from the police in helping in such situations, but I don't think a private security force is going to do much better. And to your other point, there is already a thing for tracking someone down after the fact if the police aren't helpful: private investigators.
Sebguer 5y ago
Sorry, you think there's a market for a company that 'detains and rehabilitates' people?

jeffbee 5y ago

That might work in Somalia but for a private entity to detain a person on the say-so of another private person would obviously violate the civil rights of the 2nd party.

scarmig 5y ago
It also violates the civil rights of a private entity if someone beats and attacks him on the street, doesn't it?

throwaway292893 5y ago

File a police report. Move somewhere the local government backs their police and they do their job. What you want is the ability to pay to get expedited help, to which I say is that the fair option to those who can't afford to pay for protection?

scarmig 5y ago
The idea that police help in situations like this betrays a lack of experience living in San Francisco. Ideally everyone would be protected from random attacks on the street, not just those able to pay.
- throwaway292893 5y ago
  > Ideally everyone would be protected from random attacks on the street, not just those able to pay. Exactly. You are advocating for a paid service, some sort of commercial company to do the enforcement. How do you think they'd generate revenue otherwise? Currently San Francisco is setup that way, you pay private security because the cops are useless. That's not like that everywhere. You should fix your police, not bandaid fix the problem for the people who can afford it while leaving the people who can't to suffer.

kelnos 5y ago

Response time isn't zero, though. Likely the attacker would be long gone before these people show up. I agree it's unpleasant being physically assaulted on the street (happened to me 8 years ago and I still think about it often), as is the utter lack of interest from the police in helping in such situations, but I don't think a private security force is going to do much better. And to your other point, there is already a thing for tracking someone down after the fact if the police aren't helpful: private investigators.

Sebguer 5y ago

Sorry, you think there's a market for a company that 'detains and rehabilitates' people?