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To be clear, I don't blame the federal government for break up that dangerous cult. But I think they deliberately went about it in a way they knew would result

To be clear, I don't blame the federal government for break up that dangerous cult. But I think they deliberately went about it in a way they knew would result in a lot of violence. The siege had already been underway for weeks when those reports of abuse reached Janet Reno; the reports of abuse precipitated the final assault, not the siege itself. The siege started with arrest warrants for weapons charges.

frankfrankfrank 5y ago
You may be interested in listening to this [1]. Both of you have a very shallow and, frankly, rather naive understanding of what happened there. It will likely shock you to learn what you were told about that event is not at all honest, to put it nicely. [1] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scott-horton-show-just-the-interviews/id545045867?i=1000519276396 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scott-horton-show-just... There also seems to be rather expansive holes in both of your understandings about what the Oklahoma city Bombing was really about. I can't find the episode of the Scott Horton Show / Antiwar.org at the moment, but here is a very long primer [2] on the extremely suspect and irregular events surrounding the OKC bombing. Bonus: the head of the investigation of the OKC bombing was none other than Merrick Garland the current AG that is apparently going to now unleash a wholesale police surveillance state on us all that I bet many think will not target them … for now. [2] https://libertarianinstitute.org/author/richard-booth/ https://libertarianinstitute.org/author/richard-booth/
- wearywanderer 5y ago
  > There also seems to be rather expansive holes in both of your understandings about what the Oklahoma city Bombing What the hell are you talking about? I haven't said a damn thing about Oklahoma. If I've said something that is incorrect about Waco, then correct me. Podcasts leave people with the impression that they learned something without actually teaching them anything. They go in one ear and out the other, leaving behind only a sensation of knowledge. If I'm wrong about that, share the knowledge you received from this podcast instead of telling me to consume a podcast.
- dragontamer 5y ago
  I know enough. 1. Branch Divinians vs ATF / FBI / other forces occurred with a 50+ day siege. 2. A large number of conspiracy theorists use the Waco Siege event to air their anti-government grievances, sometimes rising to the point of modern domestic terrorism. EDIT: I've been downvoted. #1 is surely not in question. That means #2 might need more info. Proof for #2 is the Oklahoma City Bombing. Timothy McVeigh referenced the Waco Siege as one of his grievances. There's no doubt in my mind that the Oklahoma City Bombing was a domestic terrorism event.

frankfrankfrank 5y ago

You may be interested in listening to this [1]. Both of you have a very shallow and, frankly, rather naive understanding of what happened there. It will likely shock you to learn what you were told about that event is not at all honest, to put it nicely. [1] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scott-horton-show-just-the-interviews/id545045867?i=1000519276396 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/scott-horton-show-just... There also seems to be rather expansive holes in both of your understandings about what the Oklahoma city Bombing was really about. I can't find the episode of the Scott Horton Show / Antiwar.org at the moment, but here is a very long primer [2] on the extremely suspect and irregular events surrounding the OKC bombing. Bonus: the head of the investigation of the OKC bombing was none other than Merrick Garland the current AG that is apparently going to now unleash a wholesale police surveillance state on us all that I bet many think will not target them … for now. [2] https://libertarianinstitute.org/author/richard-booth/ https://libertarianinstitute.org/author/richard-booth/

wearywanderer 5y ago
> There also seems to be rather expansive holes in both of your understandings about what the Oklahoma city Bombing What the hell are you talking about? I haven't said a damn thing about Oklahoma. If I've said something that is incorrect about Waco, then correct me. Podcasts leave people with the impression that they learned something without actually teaching them anything. They go in one ear and out the other, leaving behind only a sensation of knowledge. If I'm wrong about that, share the knowledge you received from this podcast instead of telling me to consume a podcast.
dragontamer 5y ago
I know enough. 1. Branch Divinians vs ATF / FBI / other forces occurred with a 50+ day siege. 2. A large number of conspiracy theorists use the Waco Siege event to air their anti-government grievances, sometimes rising to the point of modern domestic terrorism. EDIT: I've been downvoted. #1 is surely not in question. That means #2 might need more info. Proof for #2 is the Oklahoma City Bombing. Timothy McVeigh referenced the Waco Siege as one of his grievances. There's no doubt in my mind that the Oklahoma City Bombing was a domestic terrorism event.