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This is inevitable. Even before the defund the police movement, departments across the country had police shortages where for every 5 officers they needed, they

This is inevitable. Even before the defund the police movement, departments across the country had police shortages where for every 5 officers they needed, they only had 3. Things have gotten worse regardless of which side of the debate you're on https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-in-philly-and-beyond-are-struggling-with-a-shortage-of-police-recruits-and-a-surge-in-retirements/ar-BB1fZgML https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-in-philly-and-be... I was just expecting AI and robots to take over ala Robocop and Little Sister cameras everywhere. I did not foresee the gig companies like Bannerman and Citizen doing it, but here we are.

Black101 5y ago
Around here they pull over people for simple traffic stops with 3 police cars
- chaostheory 5y ago
  I'm just the messenger, and anecdotes aren't as useful as data.
  - Black101 5y ago
    Do you have some data backing that?
    - chaostheory 5y ago
      If my other link didn't contain enough data for you, here's more from before COVID and before Floyd https://www.npr.org/2018/12/12/675359781/americas-growing-cop-shortage https://www.npr.org/2018/12/12/675359781/americas-growing-co... Yes, I agree that US police forces need heavy reform, starting with decreasing the power and influence of their unions, then with limiting their function (e.g. they should be escorted by a health professional for mental health related calls), and then with increasing their increasing pay and expecting better and more educated results. If we're just going to swing far right ("Nothing is wrong. Everyone else is wrong and we should stay the course"), or far left ("the police can never be reformed, let's abolish it") hammers to solve or ignore the problem, then both solutions will just lead to the same result: no one wants to be a police officer anymore which imo will also increase police brutality and crime as a side effect. If we go down either extreme route, I predict that eventually machines will be our judge, jury, and executioner. I hope I'm wrong.

Black101 5y ago

Around here they pull over people for simple traffic stops with 3 police cars

chaostheory 5y ago
I'm just the messenger, and anecdotes aren't as useful as data.
- Black101 5y ago
  Do you have some data backing that?
  - chaostheory 5y ago
    If my other link didn't contain enough data for you, here's more from before COVID and before Floyd https://www.npr.org/2018/12/12/675359781/americas-growing-cop-shortage https://www.npr.org/2018/12/12/675359781/americas-growing-co... Yes, I agree that US police forces need heavy reform, starting with decreasing the power and influence of their unions, then with limiting their function (e.g. they should be escorted by a health professional for mental health related calls), and then with increasing their increasing pay and expecting better and more educated results. If we're just going to swing far right ("Nothing is wrong. Everyone else is wrong and we should stay the course"), or far left ("the police can never be reformed, let's abolish it") hammers to solve or ignore the problem, then both solutions will just lead to the same result: no one wants to be a police officer anymore which imo will also increase police brutality and crime as a side effect. If we go down either extreme route, I predict that eventually machines will be our judge, jury, and executioner. I hope I'm wrong.