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Looks like they explicitly plan on incorporating bounties into the app itself. My prediction is someone will go all viligante and beat/maim/kill someone, proba
by andrewzah 5y ago
Looks like they explicitly plan on incorporating bounties into the app itself.
My prediction is someone will go all viligante and beat/maim/kill someone, probably who is innocent. Then the app will get pulled.
- Judgmentality 5y ago> My prediction is someone will go all viligante and beat/maim/kill someone, probably who is innocent. Then the app will get pulled. I think it's more likely the first time this happens the person is actually guilty, and there will be a huge debate as to whether or not it's a good thing.
- abfan1127 5y agoqueue the "if we save only 1 child, its worth it" theme music as well.
- skeeter2020 5y agoah yes, won't anyone think of the children?
- peteretep 5y agoAs much as ‘queue’ looks like it would make sense, the word is actually ‘cue’
- cratermoon 5y agoAnd then it will come out that the vigilante has a sketchy, checkered past, possibly including jail time.
- 14 5y agoJail time is not an indicator of a bad person. The US likes to lock up people for the crime of being poor.
- cratermoon 5y agoThat's correct. Notice, however, that I mentioned the actual crimes first, and added "jail time" as an afterthought. There are plenty of criminals who commit real crimes and don't get jail time, or even much punishment. See e.g. Brock Turner, Shane M. Piche, Zoe Reardon, George Zimmerman, Isaac Turnbaugh, etc.
- vanshg 5y agoBut what if they don't?
- hanniabu 5y agoThen they'll scramble to find anything they can to slander the person, such as a parking ticket
- lapetitejort 5y agoDon't forget about naughty pictures such as the subject holding mind-altering drugs such as coffee or alcohol.
- Paradigma11 5y agoAnd the huge debate will suddenly stop when an innocent person is killed and everybody will always have been dead set against it.
- CoolGuySteve 5y agoI thought the Rico app in Westworld season 3 was kind of silly but I guess not now that it has an upcoming release date.
- AlexandrB 5y agoHow do you determine if a dead person is guilty? AFAIK no prosecutor will indict a corpse.
- StavrosK 5y agoEveryone is guilty until proven innocent.
- heavyset_go 5y ago> I think it's more likely the first time this happens the person is actually guilty, and there will be a huge debate as to whether or not it's a good thing. No there won't. There have been serial killers who used common apps to find their victims, along with people who rob, assault, harass and stalk people they find on apps. People don't really care. Even the justice system doesn't care because the companies are able to argue that Section 230 means that they aren't liable for what users do with their products[1]. [1] https://www.americanbar.org/groups/diversity/women/publications/perspectives/2021/december/winning-through-losing/ https://www.americanbar.org/groups/diversity/women/publicati...
- byteshock 5y agoRight but there is a difference between people posting on a social media app and the app targeting someone itself. Citizen is encouraging others to find this person. So they would be held liable.
- heavyset_go 5y agoI'd imagine that they'd argue that they are not responsible for what users do in response to a bounty being posted on their interactive computer service, and courts would agree.
- tmh88j 5y ago>My prediction is someone will go all viligante and beat/maim/kill someone, probably who is innocent. Then the app will get pulled. That's always been their intention. Well, not to kill anyone, but to track people down. The app was originally called vigilante and Apple pulled it from the app store, so they rebranded and now we have Citizen. Maybe Apple will do it again before anything even worse happens than the recent $30k bounty on an innocent person.
- steve76 5y agoMy prediction is they will soon be corrupted and sell drugs. Happens in Mexico.
- codyb 5y agoI tried using “Citizen” a few years back. You can only use it if you’re willing to share location data either whenever you’re using the app or all the time. No. Maybe that’s fine by others but any app I can’t put a zip code into is deleted now. It’s creepy and weird to ask for location data. Where are the apps that default to zip code and offer me the option to have myself tracked everywhere I go for more personalized output?
- qualudeheart 5y agoWe need better device virtualization tech. With VM you could spoof a different location. Some ppl use emulators but I find them too slow usually.
- StavrosK 5y agoYou don't need a VM for that. Hell, there are apps that'll do it with one tap. Android-only, of course.
- lobocinza 5y agoIs it easier now? Last time I tried (years) app could see location was spoofed so I had to root to spoof better and then many apps could see I was rooted and refused to run.
- SV_BubbleTime 5y agoWestworld has taken a huge downturn (hey, people like the sex and killing of robots that don’t know they’re robots in a Wild West theme park... let’s remove that entirely from our show!)... but this is entirely a central plot device in that show. An app where people accept contracts for quick cash. It’s supposed to be a dystopian element of their society, not a blueprint.
- antonvs 5y agoThere seems to be no dystopian fantasy so bad that someone doesn't take it as a blueprint. A kind of Poe's Law for dystopias.
- qualudeheart 5y agoI mean westworld is a really dumb show.
- cgb223 5y agoNever expected to see “Bounty Hunters as a Service” (BHaaS) become a viable tech business model…
- folli 5y agoI actually don't understand their business model. $20 per month will in no way cover the cost to send security guards your way, or maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.
- gnicholas 5y agoIt sounds like the current $20 offering is to have a remote employee monitoring you when you walk home alone, or the like. The contemplated new service, Protect, is not currently available to the public, and there's nothing indicating it would be $20/mo. My guess is there will be tiers based on anticipated usage, like AAA. Want X number of monthly reports? That costs $Y. If you want 2X the reports and expedited response time, it costs $2Y.
- cutemonster 5y agoPeople paying for getting really intrusively surveiled?
- walleeee 5y agoA friend startup-pitched exactly this idea (remote monitoring by request, e.g. late-night walks home) to me 6 years ago and found me less enthusiastic than he had perhaps hoped, it's strange to think about how many people might converge on similar ideas at the roughly same time Not particularly surprised to see it realized in this way
- qualudeheart 5y agoI have a few surveillance ideas more interesting than that but think they are immoral. It’s sad that someone else will implement them anyway.
- shakezula 5y agoYeah this feels like really close to an assassination market haha