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It’s getting harder and harder for him recently to come up with conventional explications. I think the biggest problem will be when data from multiple systems i

by dsyrk 5y ago

It’s getting harder and harder for him recently to come up with conventional explications. I think the biggest problem will be when data from multiple systems is declassified as it will really challenge various debunking theories.

eloff 5y ago
To be fair, as I'm always telling my wife, just because you can't imagine the explanation doesn't imply the alternative that it's a supernatural explanation (or substitute aliens here) is true. It most probably is just a failure of imagination.
tsimionescu 5y ago
Or, more likely, it will show more conclusively that, despite what a few spooks want to have everyone speculating, the phenomena are not impressive at all. Of course, no amount of data will put this to rest. When other instruments will have failed to register the same event, people will not accept the obvious conclusion (the one instrument that "caught" it was malfunctioning/misinterpreted one way or another), they will start claiming that not only are the objects special, they are also invisible to radar/infrared/[...].
- dsyrk 5y ago
  What do you make of the US senators reactions? I mean they have received classified briefings on this topic and the incidents and there are multiple incidents where the UAPs are registered on multiple sensors, radar, FLIR, and human witnesses with all collaborating and consistent details. I default to skepticism and metabunk is a great read on many topics but we are probably nearing a point of failure to debunk on many incidents. There is something and the question is what is it.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    I make of them the same thing I make in retrospect of US senator reactions to receiving classified briefings about WMDs in Irak: they could be complete fabrications, meant to deceive senators as much as the public. Furthermore, even if it is absolutely true that the military has a huge host of UAP that they have worked hard to identify and failed, and they are briefing the senators on the details, that does not mean that there is no explanation, it just means that trying to accurately explain a phenomenon that happened once or twice is extremely hard. I have a backlog of dozens of bugs in my product that a customer has seen once or twice, with logs that show me they are right, that make no sense given the code and that we have been unable to reproduce. Should I conclude that alien devices interfered with my software to deceive my customer? Obviously not: complex systems are complex and have many corner case behaviors that we may never have a completely satisfying explanation for.

by dsyrk 5y ago

eloff 5y ago

To be fair, as I'm always telling my wife, just because you can't imagine the explanation doesn't imply the alternative that it's a supernatural explanation (or substitute aliens here) is true. It most probably is just a failure of imagination.

tsimionescu 5y ago

Or, more likely, it will show more conclusively that, despite what a few spooks want to have everyone speculating, the phenomena are not impressive at all. Of course, no amount of data will put this to rest. When other instruments will have failed to register the same event, people will not accept the obvious conclusion (the one instrument that "caught" it was malfunctioning/misinterpreted one way or another), they will start claiming that not only are the objects special, they are also invisible to radar/infrared/[...].

dsyrk 5y ago
What do you make of the US senators reactions? I mean they have received classified briefings on this topic and the incidents and there are multiple incidents where the UAPs are registered on multiple sensors, radar, FLIR, and human witnesses with all collaborating and consistent details. I default to skepticism and metabunk is a great read on many topics but we are probably nearing a point of failure to debunk on many incidents. There is something and the question is what is it.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  I make of them the same thing I make in retrospect of US senator reactions to receiving classified briefings about WMDs in Irak: they could be complete fabrications, meant to deceive senators as much as the public. Furthermore, even if it is absolutely true that the military has a huge host of UAP that they have worked hard to identify and failed, and they are briefing the senators on the details, that does not mean that there is no explanation, it just means that trying to accurately explain a phenomenon that happened once or twice is extremely hard. I have a backlog of dozens of bugs in my product that a customer has seen once or twice, with logs that show me they are right, that make no sense given the code and that we have been unable to reproduce. Should I conclude that alien devices interfered with my software to deceive my customer? Obviously not: complex systems are complex and have many corner case behaviors that we may never have a completely satisfying explanation for.