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> visited by a black SUV and a group of burly looking suited security guards Not very different than getting visited by a burly looking neighbor. Except some p

by shmatt 5y ago

> visited by a black SUV and a group of burly looking suited security guards Not very different than getting visited by a burly looking neighbor. Except some people can look weaker, or be afraid to approach their neighbor because their small stature When I had an upstairs neighbor having parties at all hours of the night, I wished there was a service where a bigger / more intimidating person would knock on their door and ask them to cut it out, instead of small and fragile looking me

tkzed49 5y ago
And what if I'm disturbed seeing you walk around the neighborhood, and I call some big burly men to give you a talk about it? Even if most people are reasonable, this just invites the unreasonable people to power trip with private security forces.
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  Talk? Yes.
majormajor 5y ago
Did you talk to your neighbor ever? Or did you just dream of intimidating them while fearing them without meeting them? (And you weren't afraid of potential fallout from escalating things to intimidation either way? What if they hire a BIGGER person to go knock on your door?)
TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
You're being down voted for this comment, and perhaps you could have worded it differently, but the core of your message seems completely reasonable: If you don't want to do something, you ask somebody else, if you both agree to the terms and costs you have a deal. The world can be, how should I put this, difficult a place. The contracted party might agree to not mention you. Something like: hey, I live across the street, would you mind letting me know if you're going to have music late at night because I'll just stay at my partner's place that evening, here's my number. No sweat, have a good night, here's a complimentary six pack. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to assume the best possible reading of a comment like yours. Have a lovely day.
- gowld 5y ago
  Your solution is to flee your own home and pay the perpetrator who is illegally disturbing the peace?
  - drusepth 5y ago
    I've had problems with my (large) upstairs neighbor for the past year. The building repeatedly fined them, the police refused to come out, and I knocked on their door sometimes several times a day for about 9 months straight. My solution was to offer to pay them $$$ for their moving fees and, when they turned that down, I just picked up and moved to another building. That's not really much different.
optimalsolver 5y ago
Ok, and if your neighbor tells your security dude to get lost, what happens then? (Assume everyone involved is armed)
chasd00 5y ago
>I wished there was a service where a bigger / more intimidating person would knock on their door and ask them to cut it out heh that's a "hired goon". This whole discussion is like standard issue organized crime and protection rackets but in app form. Too funny.
industriousthou 5y ago
You would call in a private security force to intimidate your loud neighbors because you can't? I wonder how else that security force might be used to enforce personal preferences.
kelnos 5y ago
> I wished there was a service where a bigger / more intimidating person would knock on their door and ask them to cut it out, instead of small and fragile looking me That exists, and it's called the police. If your neighbor is violating noise ordinances, they'll get ticketed. If they're not, perhaps they're violating building rules, and can be fined by the building management. If still not, then you unfortunately just live in a shitty building, and hiring a thug to harass your neighbor (regardless of how loud they're being) sounds like a pretty disgusting (and legally risky) thing to do.

by shmatt 5y ago

tkzed49 5y ago

And what if I'm disturbed seeing you walk around the neighborhood, and I call some big burly men to give you a talk about it? Even if most people are reasonable, this just invites the unreasonable people to power trip with private security forces.

ErikVandeWater 5y ago
Talk? Yes.

majormajor 5y ago

Did you talk to your neighbor ever? Or did you just dream of intimidating them while fearing them without meeting them? (And you weren't afraid of potential fallout from escalating things to intimidation either way? What if they hire a BIGGER person to go knock on your door?)

TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago

You're being down voted for this comment, and perhaps you could have worded it differently, but the core of your message seems completely reasonable: If you don't want to do something, you ask somebody else, if you both agree to the terms and costs you have a deal. The world can be, how should I put this, difficult a place. The contracted party might agree to not mention you. Something like: hey, I live across the street, would you mind letting me know if you're going to have music late at night because I'll just stay at my partner's place that evening, here's my number. No sweat, have a good night, here's a complimentary six pack. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to assume the best possible reading of a comment like yours. Have a lovely day.

gowld 5y ago
Your solution is to flee your own home and pay the perpetrator who is illegally disturbing the peace?
- drusepth 5y ago
  I've had problems with my (large) upstairs neighbor for the past year. The building repeatedly fined them, the police refused to come out, and I knocked on their door sometimes several times a day for about 9 months straight. My solution was to offer to pay them $$$ for their moving fees and, when they turned that down, I just picked up and moved to another building. That's not really much different.

optimalsolver 5y ago

Ok, and if your neighbor tells your security dude to get lost, what happens then? (Assume everyone involved is armed)

chasd00 5y ago

>I wished there was a service where a bigger / more intimidating person would knock on their door and ask them to cut it out heh that's a "hired goon". This whole discussion is like standard issue organized crime and protection rackets but in app form. Too funny.

industriousthou 5y ago

You would call in a private security force to intimidate your loud neighbors because you can't? I wonder how else that security force might be used to enforce personal preferences.

kelnos 5y ago

> I wished there was a service where a bigger / more intimidating person would knock on their door and ask them to cut it out, instead of small and fragile looking me That exists, and it's called the police. If your neighbor is violating noise ordinances, they'll get ticketed. If they're not, perhaps they're violating building rules, and can be fined by the building management. If still not, then you unfortunately just live in a shitty building, and hiring a thug to harass your neighbor (regardless of how loud they're being) sounds like a pretty disgusting (and legally risky) thing to do.