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> as long as people are involved it is impossible to not have a government What always intrigued me about anarchism is that it doesn't seem that it had devoted

> as long as people are involved it is impossible to not have a government What always intrigued me about anarchism is that it doesn't seem that it had devoted much thought about preventing the re-formation of the state/government. Humanity used to live in small, tightly-knit communities, and if you studied (very) ancient history, you know how it ended: those communities banded together into bands, then into tribes, then those turned into proto-states, and... yeah.

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Pet_Ant 5y ago
Anarchism is traditionally another word for communism. Anti-hierarchy. So but reading about seems the term is loaded and can mean many things: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism How this got downvoted is beyond me, if you see the link you will find how intertwined their histories are. > Major schools of thought of anarchism sprouted up as anarchism grew as a social movement, particularly anarcho-collectivism, anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, and individualist anarchism. As the workers' movement grew, the divide between anarchists and Marxists grew as well. The two currents formally split at the fifth congress of the First International in 1872,
- mxmilkiib 5y ago
  Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed a bunch of anarchists. But yes, there is anarcho-communism. Most folk don't know of libertarian socialism. See also Murry Bookchin and the Kurds.
- ar_lan 5y ago
  Anarchism and Stalin wouldn't jive well, so I wouldn't say it's "traditionally another word for communism"
  - Joker_vD 5y ago
    Nestor Makhno, on the other hand, is generally recognized as an anarchist, and yet he too had argued for centralization of power.
  - mxmilkiib 5y ago
    There is libertarian communism, and some actually outright reject authoritarian communism as actually being socialism.
  - Pet_Ant 5y ago
    Well I think traditionally to indicate a period before the Cold War. While Stalin was leader of the USSR he was hardly a communist as Trotsky himself would hove told you, I believe his term for it was "degenerate worker's state"
aww_dang 5y ago
Hans Hermann Hoppe has written a book (popular in the ancap community) on the anarcho-capitalist ideals. The dilemma you present has been addressed by the scholars in the field. If you are genuinely intrigued by these questions you might find it interesting. Democracy: The God That Failed https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/980031.Democracy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/980031.Democracy
jayd16 5y ago
You could argue that we're already in an anarchy. Its non-controversial to say that the international stage is an anarchy. All governments are just simply local entities working inside that global anarchy.

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Pet_Ant 5y ago

Anarchism is traditionally another word for communism. Anti-hierarchy. So but reading about seems the term is loaded and can mean many things: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism How this got downvoted is beyond me, if you see the link you will find how intertwined their histories are. > Major schools of thought of anarchism sprouted up as anarchism grew as a social movement, particularly anarcho-collectivism, anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, and individualist anarchism. As the workers' movement grew, the divide between anarchists and Marxists grew as well. The two currents formally split at the fifth congress of the First International in 1872,

mxmilkiib 5y ago
Lenin and the Bolsheviks killed a bunch of anarchists. But yes, there is anarcho-communism. Most folk don't know of libertarian socialism. See also Murry Bookchin and the Kurds.
ar_lan 5y ago
Anarchism and Stalin wouldn't jive well, so I wouldn't say it's "traditionally another word for communism"
- Joker_vD 5y ago
  Nestor Makhno, on the other hand, is generally recognized as an anarchist, and yet he too had argued for centralization of power.
- mxmilkiib 5y ago
  There is libertarian communism, and some actually outright reject authoritarian communism as actually being socialism.
- Pet_Ant 5y ago
  Well I think traditionally to indicate a period before the Cold War. While Stalin was leader of the USSR he was hardly a communist as Trotsky himself would hove told you, I believe his term for it was "degenerate worker's state"

aww_dang 5y ago

Hans Hermann Hoppe has written a book (popular in the ancap community) on the anarcho-capitalist ideals. The dilemma you present has been addressed by the scholars in the field. If you are genuinely intrigued by these questions you might find it interesting. Democracy: The God That Failed https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/980031.Democracy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/980031.Democracy

jayd16 5y ago

You could argue that we're already in an anarchy. Its non-controversial to say that the international stage is an anarchy. All governments are just simply local entities working inside that global anarchy.