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I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too. The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their
by danieldle 5y ago
I see that you are spreading your falsehoods here, too.
The issue with services was not due to the "previous team", but rather due to the sponsor pulling their box. The "previous team" had no access to them by that point.
As you might have guessed, the sponsors had a gentlemen's agreement with previous staff and not with Freenode ltd. Now most of them obviously don't like sponsoring their boxes for your company, so they are pulling them.
Stop lying, Andrew. If you would have approached this in a sane and respectful manner and not sent your bloodhounds out, you maybe wouldn't have inherited smoke and ashes.
- sillysaurusx 5y agoLeaving a project when you know that it will cause their infrastructure to collapse isn’t too professional. It seems pretty fair to characterize this as partly your fault, since, y’know, you caused it by leaving. I think both sides in this are acting bizarre. You’re talking like it’s an oath of allegiance rather than an irc server.
- mynameisvlad 5y agoIf you're being paid, sure. But volunteers are allowed to withdraw their support at any point in time for any reason under the sun. They have exactly zero obligation to anyone but themselves.
- danieldle 5y agoIt would not have collapsed at all. It simply disappeared because the sponsor of it was a sponsor of freenode, and didn't want to be a sponsor of Andrew Lee. This is entirely up to them and their decision, it is their box, their money.
- scrps 5y agoOP stated the sponsor pulled the box after they no longer wanted to support freenode. How would the former staff have handled that more professionally? Begging the sponsor not revoke access? If I were a sponsor who found out a project I was donating resources to was taken over under questionable circumstances by someone with deep pockets I'd have done the same.
- sillysaurusx 5y agoYeah, you're right. I guess it wasn't up to the volunteers; sorry. It wasn't a very nice move by the sponsor to yank support without giving any notice – usually you'd get a week, or 30 days, or something – but it sounds like no one had any obligations to.
- tallship 5y agoI recall just a few months ago when Amazon yanked the plug on hosting a company's infra with little more than 24hrs notice. So I guess that's precedence for something like that, and yet, that company held a contract with Amazon to host their infra.... no such scenario in this case ;)
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y agoThere was substantially more than 24 hrs ... amzn sent several communications to Parler explaining their issues with what Parler was (or was not doing). The final communication had a 24hr deadline.
- tallship 5y agoYup. Abolootley! For Andrew, the spoiled little boy with an empty toybox: You own a brand. That's basically it. And then swing in like Tarzan to save the day from the sunshine and suddenly, all of the organizations that provided *Their* infra to *the cause*, *the spirit*, and *the philosophy* of giving back to the community took back their infra and..... suddenly the little boy realizes that his toybox is empty - Sure! Little boy owns that toybox, but all the toys inside were gracious contributions loaned to the hard working team of volunteers that no longer work for you. Yup! we're taking back our boxes and wiping the data and repurposing those resources that We, the companies and individuals that made your little starship go, and we're using our property to reallocate those resources either to other noble causes or paying customers - of which you have neither (noble causes or paying customers Andrew).
- fastball 5y agoPersonal attacks / name-calling are not welcome on HN, as per the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html