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Then explain your motives more clearly. Freenode used to be managed by a college of trusted people, and now? The issues with services I speak about wasn't rela

by wut42 5y ago

Then explain your motives more clearly. Freenode used to be managed by a college of trusted people, and now? The issues with services I speak about wasn't related at all to mail either.

rasengan 5y ago
Freenode was staffed by volunteers but it was never managed by them. They were recruited by management. Let’s not rewrite history any further, please.
- ex-fnstaffer 5y ago
  This is also simply untrue.
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  Who, exactly, is "management" here? And in what, exact specific, ways are they involved in freenode operations? As I said in another comment, the core of freenode is its servers and operators, both of whom have no real ties to freenode limited as they consist of sponsored servers and volunteers, respectively. By that nature alone, freenode limited doesn't seem to have any influence over either aside from owning the name and trademarks. So who exactly is "management" and what role do they have in the freenode network?
- wut42 5y ago
  Really? Can you prove that? I've been on freenode since almost 18 years and there was no management, every head of staff after Lilo (so, Christel) was appointed by the staff, just like tomaw was.
- danieldle 5y ago
  Obviously bullshit, freenode is older than your company, and when it was founded you were not even known. The IRC network freenode was ran by, managed by, developed by and loved by volunteers. You came in like a wrecking ball and destroyed it. Thank you, self-proclaimed saviour of IRC, for your continuing efforts in destroying it. Fortunately money doesn't buy you communities and doesn't buy you people, so compared to some proprietary solutions and companies, we can and will survive. Your freshly acquired toy, on the other hand, probably won't.
- tallship 5y ago
  So, how many servers loaned to you by other parties have revoked those loans.... besides the email server you're whining about? How much of your network is actually left standing and operational after what? two days? Over ten thousand channels have been recreated on the network that is the successor to yours... in one day. How does that leave you feeling?

by wut42 5y ago

Then explain your motives more clearly. Freenode used to be managed by a college of trusted people, and now? The issues with services I speak about wasn't related at all to mail either.

rasengan 5y ago

Freenode was staffed by volunteers but it was never managed by them. They were recruited by management. Let’s not rewrite history any further, please.

ex-fnstaffer 5y ago
This is also simply untrue.
mynameisvlad 5y ago
Who, exactly, is "management" here? And in what, exact specific, ways are they involved in freenode operations? As I said in another comment, the core of freenode is its servers and operators, both of whom have no real ties to freenode limited as they consist of sponsored servers and volunteers, respectively. By that nature alone, freenode limited doesn't seem to have any influence over either aside from owning the name and trademarks. So who exactly is "management" and what role do they have in the freenode network?
wut42 5y ago
Really? Can you prove that? I've been on freenode since almost 18 years and there was no management, every head of staff after Lilo (so, Christel) was appointed by the staff, just like tomaw was.
danieldle 5y ago
Obviously bullshit, freenode is older than your company, and when it was founded you were not even known. The IRC network freenode was ran by, managed by, developed by and loved by volunteers. You came in like a wrecking ball and destroyed it. Thank you, self-proclaimed saviour of IRC, for your continuing efforts in destroying it. Fortunately money doesn't buy you communities and doesn't buy you people, so compared to some proprietary solutions and companies, we can and will survive. Your freshly acquired toy, on the other hand, probably won't.
tallship 5y ago
So, how many servers loaned to you by other parties have revoked those loans.... besides the email server you're whining about? How much of your network is actually left standing and operational after what? two days? Over ten thousand channels have been recreated on the network that is the successor to yours... in one day. How does that leave you feeling?