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Massive height, less durable materials in the work areas (aluminum bed, I'm looking at you), more seats, and much smaller bed areas. All of those things contrib

Massive height, less durable materials in the work areas (aluminum bed, I'm looking at you), more seats, and much smaller bed areas. All of those things contribute to the fall of practicality. I tried to find a regular cab, regular bed F-150 about four months ago. To do that, I would've had to buy a fleet vehicle intended for a manufacturer or to be converted into like a plumbing truck. Everything else has 4 doors and a 5' bed. I don't want an SUV, I want a truck with a full sized bed. The sales people were genuinely confused as to why I wouldn't want a quad-cab, and why I needed an 8' bed. They legitimately never had that conversation with anyone unless they were looking for a fleet truck. What a world.

jacurtis 5y ago
Yeah I don't think that Ford even makes a 2-seater anymore in anything other than their XL/fleet model. You can buy the "extended cab" in the XLT (the base trim sold to consumers), which is the 2 seater with a small bench in the back, but even those are really hard to find, you don't see them often. But after you get above the base model, the only thing available is "crew cabs" which is the full 4-seat SUV size interior. Really trucks have become 4 seat vehicles now. The super-crew (4 seat) cabs are essentially standard at dealerships. The only way to get a 2 seater truck is by buying one through a fleet program. And right now that would be essentially impossible. Trucks are hard to get right now and most dealerships won't sell a fleet vehicle to a consumer because the demand for fleet trucks is too high right now.
- jjav 5y ago
  > But after you get above the base model, the only thing available is "crew cabs" which is the full 4-seat SUV size interior. Looking at ford.com, I could order an F-150 with regular cab (2 door) and 8 ft bed for $30K. Looking at Dodge, the 1500 doesn't seem to have an 8ft bed option, but I could order a 2500 with regular cab and 8ft bed for $36K.
  - Kerrick 5y ago
    To get a 1500 with an 8ft bed, you have to get the "1500 Classic" -- they're halfway through a refresh, splitting it across multiple model years and starting with the crew cab + small bed.
massysett 5y ago
I see the practicality of a crew cab every day when I see one truck after another of landscaping crews. The crew cab is full, the bed has stuff in it, and many are towing trailers.

jacurtis 5y ago

Yeah I don't think that Ford even makes a 2-seater anymore in anything other than their XL/fleet model. You can buy the "extended cab" in the XLT (the base trim sold to consumers), which is the 2 seater with a small bench in the back, but even those are really hard to find, you don't see them often. But after you get above the base model, the only thing available is "crew cabs" which is the full 4-seat SUV size interior. Really trucks have become 4 seat vehicles now. The super-crew (4 seat) cabs are essentially standard at dealerships. The only way to get a 2 seater truck is by buying one through a fleet program. And right now that would be essentially impossible. Trucks are hard to get right now and most dealerships won't sell a fleet vehicle to a consumer because the demand for fleet trucks is too high right now.

jjav 5y ago
> But after you get above the base model, the only thing available is "crew cabs" which is the full 4-seat SUV size interior. Looking at ford.com, I could order an F-150 with regular cab (2 door) and 8 ft bed for $30K. Looking at Dodge, the 1500 doesn't seem to have an 8ft bed option, but I could order a 2500 with regular cab and 8ft bed for $36K.
- Kerrick 5y ago
  To get a 1500 with an 8ft bed, you have to get the "1500 Classic" -- they're halfway through a refresh, splitting it across multiple model years and starting with the crew cab + small bed.

massysett 5y ago

I see the practicality of a crew cab every day when I see one truck after another of landscaping crews. The crew cab is full, the bed has stuff in it, and many are towing trailers.