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Hypocrits. French authorities are enemies of culture (unless culture means big-budget productions). About a decade ago they passed HADOPI law which outlawed "mi

Hypocrits. French authorities are enemies of culture (unless culture means big-budget productions). About a decade ago they passed HADOPI law which outlawed "missecurising your Internet access" (which obviously means nothing) because that's the only legal loophole they could find to fine people for ALLEGEDLY downloading protected torrents. That is despite the fact that a serious study ordered by HADOPI itself showed that sharing cultural goods for free had significant positive impact on cultural commerce as well. More local authorities are constantly harassing or outright closing down artistic spaces (not the fancy ones for bourgeois) like in Toulouse where MixArt Myrys in Toulouse which is also home to a local hackerspace and non-profit Internet Service Provider (tetalab and tetaneutral respectively). And as somebody pointed out elsewhere in the thread, this culture pass used to be 500€ previously. All in all, as a french person i dare say, fuck this government (and any other, really).

sofixa 5y ago
The Hadopi bullshit was under an entirely different government, you can't really use it as an argument to fuck the current one. What they're doit here is good and a net positive. And local authorities are that, local, so not really the same guys.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  > you can't really use it as an argument to fuck the current one. Except this government and the previous ones have mostly EXACTLY the same policies on pretty much everything (more police/business, less healthcare/education), including the copyright mafia. The lobbies are still the same people, too. This new government has also implied HADOPI didn't go far enough and they'd make a new law to further criminalize video streaming consumption (HADOPI only criminalizes the assumption of p2p sharing on Bittorrent protocol specifically). > What they're doit here is good and a net positive. What they're doing here is putting a bandaid on a cancer. Abolish copyright, redistribute wealth massively, and invest in emancipatory education (alla Montessori) and you'll get much better results. But they're not interested in making things better for the people, only in diverting public money into the pockets of their business friends from the cultural sector. For that, giving away 500 credits (not actual euros) that can be used on cultural contents approved of by the industry/government (not independent artists) is fairly effective.
Voloskaya 5y ago
The culture pass used to be 500 euros, for about 2K people per year (anyone turning 18 yo, only in Nievre). It's now 300 euros for anyone turning 18 yo in all of France, about 800K people. Trying to paint that as regression is stretching the truth pretty hard.
- southerntofu 5y ago
  What's your source for "Pass Culture" only being available in Nièvre? That's not what this article from 2018 is saying: https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/40878/1/pass-culture-france-emmanuel-macron-giving-young-people-500-euros-arts-music https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/40878/1...

sofixa 5y ago

The Hadopi bullshit was under an entirely different government, you can't really use it as an argument to fuck the current one. What they're doit here is good and a net positive. And local authorities are that, local, so not really the same guys.

southerntofu 5y ago
> you can't really use it as an argument to fuck the current one. Except this government and the previous ones have mostly EXACTLY the same policies on pretty much everything (more police/business, less healthcare/education), including the copyright mafia. The lobbies are still the same people, too. This new government has also implied HADOPI didn't go far enough and they'd make a new law to further criminalize video streaming consumption (HADOPI only criminalizes the assumption of p2p sharing on Bittorrent protocol specifically). > What they're doit here is good and a net positive. What they're doing here is putting a bandaid on a cancer. Abolish copyright, redistribute wealth massively, and invest in emancipatory education (alla Montessori) and you'll get much better results. But they're not interested in making things better for the people, only in diverting public money into the pockets of their business friends from the cultural sector. For that, giving away 500 credits (not actual euros) that can be used on cultural contents approved of by the industry/government (not independent artists) is fairly effective.

Voloskaya 5y ago

The culture pass used to be 500 euros, for about 2K people per year (anyone turning 18 yo, only in Nievre). It's now 300 euros for anyone turning 18 yo in all of France, about 800K people. Trying to paint that as regression is stretching the truth pretty hard.

southerntofu 5y ago
What's your source for "Pass Culture" only being available in Nièvre? That's not what this article from 2018 is saying: https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/40878/1/pass-culture-france-emmanuel-macron-giving-young-people-500-euros-arts-music https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/40878/1...