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>transparent info and pricing Sure, "transparent" pricing that can change on a whim, even after you've purchased the product. "Take-it-or-leave-it" delivery i

>transparent info and pricing Sure, "transparent" pricing that can change on a whim, even after you've purchased the product. "Take-it-or-leave-it" delivery if you find flaws with your car. >Step three is me checking on the cyber truck status. Let me know when you take delivery of a Cybertruck for <40k, similar pricing to the Model 3, like the "transparent info" claims.

Cshelton 5y ago
Tesla does not really have "Model Years". The vehicle is constantly changing week to week, and priced so. You just need to buy when you want and be happy with the product. Just like an Iphone! Also, other car manufactures actually change their prices all the time based on cost of materials, shipping, etc. The Dealer will change the price based on inventory space, cost to hold, etc. You just don't see it as much because it is hidden behind Dealership "Deals" and "Promotions" that come and go. Traditionally, it has always been the best to buy a vehicle at the end of the year, when the dealers are trying to make room for the next "model year".
- jayd16 5y ago
  >Traditionally, it has always been the best to buy a vehicle at the end of the year This is still fairly true with the Tesla. They change more often but they still do larger changes that seem to sync up with the calendar year. At least the Model 3 interior refresh did. Although the best time to buy a Tesla is when Elon needs to hit an earnings goal.
- ortusdux 5y ago
  I've read several articles about when is the best time of month/year to buy from a dealer. Some say end of the month is best, because people are trying to meet their quotas. I've read an article written by a hostage negotiator about how to get the best price from a dealership. I can list off the top of my head a good 20 or so considerations that would go into buying the right truck for my needs. All of them are more important to me than the famously shitty minutia of the actual sale process. Buying a vehicle is a whole can of worms, and Ford's site forces me to open than can before I can even start imagining life with my fancy new truck.
  - annoyingnoob 5y ago
    Getting the best price from a car dealer isn't that hard, you just have to be prepared. 1. Decide on the vehicle you want. 2. Research the options and shop around for pricing. 3. Find the bank with the best auto rates and get pre-approved. 4. Visit a dealer and make them an offer. 5. If the dealer balks then just leave. 6. Visit another dealer and make them the offer. 7. Leave this dealer too. 8. Tell each dealer that the other offered you a better price. 9. Repeat, using other dealers if needed, until you get the price you want or the best you can find. 10. Take the best deal, use your own financing, don't take any dealer options or add-ons.
    - hossbeast 5y ago
      Or, 1. Tesla.com, 2. Configure, 3. Pay.
      - annoyingnoob 5y ago
        Yes, buying a car at a dealer sucks. But you can play their kind of games too. While Tesla's are neat, they seem kind of junky to me. Honestly, I don't want a web site experience when I'm buying a car - buying a car is not like buying say a flashlight. Cars require a 'trust but verify' approach - especially a Tesla.
- ummonk 5y ago
  "Just like an Iphone!" - wait, what? An iPhone changes week to week? Since when?
Whatarethese 5y ago
When I purchased my Model 3 I ordered it online and Tesla said my price would be $42,500 in March 2019. Signed my loans docs through docusign. I picked it up 12 days later in Tempe. Delivery took 15 minutes. My car had 3 flaws. Paint chip on trunk, hood panel gap, and scratch on aero hubcap. Made appointment and brought it back a week later. Got a loaner Model S for two days and then got my car back in perfect condition.
- tills13 5y ago
  Yeah I feel like a lot of the FUD about the buying and delivery process come from people who have never gone through the process themselves. Yes: it is absolutely unacceptable that Tesla's quality standards are lacking to the point where you are encouraged to give your car a look over before picking it up. Genuinely, the car should have already been looked over on the lot -- but I guess that's the price to pay for the make-to-order process Tesla has embraced. But you are absolutely _not_ in a position where you "take it or leave it." You look your car over, note what needs to be fixed post-delivery, and make a (free) appointment to have those issues corrected. The best part? Depending on the severity of the issues, Tesla will send some to your home instead of you having to bring the car to them. My story is the same as yours: I test drove the car on the 15th, I put my deposit down, and on the 30th I drove off the lot in my new car. There was no negotiation, no up-selling, just me paying for my car and getting what I expected. Best purchase I've ever made.
  - julianlam 5y ago
    > Yes: it is absolutely unacceptable that Tesla's quality standards are lacking to the point where you are encouraged to give your car a look over before picking it up. Why? Everybody else pays for the privilege of the dealership rep to do it for them. It's called the pre-delivery inspection. If Tesla has no PDI then I suppose it's just them pawning it off on the end user. Sounds very 2020 of them to do that.
    - tills13 5y ago
      That's my point. Why isn't there a PDI for Tesla? As I said in my original comment, I'm guessing that's just the price we pay as consumers for Tesla's decision to not hold inventory and make cars to order. imo, though, the "quality issue" with Teslas are greatly exaggerated. At worst, my 3 has inconsistencies between panels, but you don't notice unless you're looking for them.

Cshelton 5y ago

Tesla does not really have "Model Years". The vehicle is constantly changing week to week, and priced so. You just need to buy when you want and be happy with the product. Just like an Iphone! Also, other car manufactures actually change their prices all the time based on cost of materials, shipping, etc. The Dealer will change the price based on inventory space, cost to hold, etc. You just don't see it as much because it is hidden behind Dealership "Deals" and "Promotions" that come and go. Traditionally, it has always been the best to buy a vehicle at the end of the year, when the dealers are trying to make room for the next "model year".

jayd16 5y ago
>Traditionally, it has always been the best to buy a vehicle at the end of the year This is still fairly true with the Tesla. They change more often but they still do larger changes that seem to sync up with the calendar year. At least the Model 3 interior refresh did. Although the best time to buy a Tesla is when Elon needs to hit an earnings goal.
ortusdux 5y ago
I've read several articles about when is the best time of month/year to buy from a dealer. Some say end of the month is best, because people are trying to meet their quotas. I've read an article written by a hostage negotiator about how to get the best price from a dealership. I can list off the top of my head a good 20 or so considerations that would go into buying the right truck for my needs. All of them are more important to me than the famously shitty minutia of the actual sale process. Buying a vehicle is a whole can of worms, and Ford's site forces me to open than can before I can even start imagining life with my fancy new truck.
- annoyingnoob 5y ago
  Getting the best price from a car dealer isn't that hard, you just have to be prepared. 1. Decide on the vehicle you want. 2. Research the options and shop around for pricing. 3. Find the bank with the best auto rates and get pre-approved. 4. Visit a dealer and make them an offer. 5. If the dealer balks then just leave. 6. Visit another dealer and make them the offer. 7. Leave this dealer too. 8. Tell each dealer that the other offered you a better price. 9. Repeat, using other dealers if needed, until you get the price you want or the best you can find. 10. Take the best deal, use your own financing, don't take any dealer options or add-ons.
  - hossbeast 5y ago
    Or, 1. Tesla.com, 2. Configure, 3. Pay.
    - annoyingnoob 5y ago
      Yes, buying a car at a dealer sucks. But you can play their kind of games too. While Tesla's are neat, they seem kind of junky to me. Honestly, I don't want a web site experience when I'm buying a car - buying a car is not like buying say a flashlight. Cars require a 'trust but verify' approach - especially a Tesla.
ummonk 5y ago
"Just like an Iphone!" - wait, what? An iPhone changes week to week? Since when?

Whatarethese 5y ago

When I purchased my Model 3 I ordered it online and Tesla said my price would be $42,500 in March 2019. Signed my loans docs through docusign. I picked it up 12 days later in Tempe. Delivery took 15 minutes. My car had 3 flaws. Paint chip on trunk, hood panel gap, and scratch on aero hubcap. Made appointment and brought it back a week later. Got a loaner Model S for two days and then got my car back in perfect condition.

tills13 5y ago
Yeah I feel like a lot of the FUD about the buying and delivery process come from people who have never gone through the process themselves. Yes: it is absolutely unacceptable that Tesla's quality standards are lacking to the point where you are encouraged to give your car a look over before picking it up. Genuinely, the car should have already been looked over on the lot -- but I guess that's the price to pay for the make-to-order process Tesla has embraced. But you are absolutely _not_ in a position where you "take it or leave it." You look your car over, note what needs to be fixed post-delivery, and make a (free) appointment to have those issues corrected. The best part? Depending on the severity of the issues, Tesla will send some to your home instead of you having to bring the car to them. My story is the same as yours: I test drove the car on the 15th, I put my deposit down, and on the 30th I drove off the lot in my new car. There was no negotiation, no up-selling, just me paying for my car and getting what I expected. Best purchase I've ever made.
- julianlam 5y ago
  > Yes: it is absolutely unacceptable that Tesla's quality standards are lacking to the point where you are encouraged to give your car a look over before picking it up. Why? Everybody else pays for the privilege of the dealership rep to do it for them. It's called the pre-delivery inspection. If Tesla has no PDI then I suppose it's just them pawning it off on the end user. Sounds very 2020 of them to do that.
  - tills13 5y ago
    That's my point. Why isn't there a PDI for Tesla? As I said in my original comment, I'm guessing that's just the price we pay as consumers for Tesla's decision to not hold inventory and make cars to order. imo, though, the "quality issue" with Teslas are greatly exaggerated. At worst, my 3 has inconsistencies between panels, but you don't notice unless you're looking for them.