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These kinds of things make me angry. Lots of good French workers paid for those passes and will not get to enjoy the benefits because they aren't 18. I'd say if

These kinds of things make me angry. Lots of good French workers paid for those passes and will not get to enjoy the benefits because they aren't 18. I'd say if my country ever does this I will migrate to a worse place. Except that would be a lie. Hopefully they won't though.

bigmattystyles 5y ago
Plus, from the article, I got the impression that the government will dictate what it can be spent on. I’m skeptical that for instance, Muslim art by French artists will be seen as French by whatever committee decides what is French. But I haven’t lived in France in 30 years. I lived in the very north almost Belgium and, though I was a child, attitudes at the time were definitely not inclusive. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  you can use the money to buy any kind of culture-related thing, any book, movie, etc from any country
  - bigmattystyles 5y ago
    But the article says the platform must be French for instance. So it’s not quite anything.
    - jcelerier 5y ago
      ... sure, but most french platforms / shops have media from everywhere
- tomcooks 5y ago
  When you build colonies in the Muslim world how do you expect Muslims not to be part of your culture? And what does Muslim art have to do with this, when Muslims are the 5% of French population? Do you think French culture should be inherently Catholic (~40%)? Or atheist/agnostic (~40%). Moreover, if you re read the article I think you'll see that you can spend the bonus as you like.
  - bigmattystyles 5y ago
    You’re making my point (I think) - I was using the Muslim angle as an example of an integral part of France that some might wish to exclude or diminish. Are you free to consume art from any French person or are you free to consume art from only what a committee deems French? As far as rereading the article it says there’s an app and you can spend the money within it but presumably the content within is vetted. It also says major French platforms like canal+ but that’s it. It does explicitly rule out Netflix, Disney, Spotify and more. So it’s definitely not anything.
tomcooks 5y ago
The good french workers paid for the soon to be workers to be cultured enough, in the hope they'll become good french workers and sustain the next generations. Welfare, helping each other, not being an egoist you know
- timwaagh 5y ago
  This isn't welfare, you know. Perhaps live in a country that has it to learn what it is. It serves the purpose of not letting people starve. It's not about this kind of decadence.

bigmattystyles 5y ago

Plus, from the article, I got the impression that the government will dictate what it can be spent on. I’m skeptical that for instance, Muslim art by French artists will be seen as French by whatever committee decides what is French. But I haven’t lived in France in 30 years. I lived in the very north almost Belgium and, though I was a child, attitudes at the time were definitely not inclusive. I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

jcelerier 5y ago
you can use the money to buy any kind of culture-related thing, any book, movie, etc from any country
- bigmattystyles 5y ago
  But the article says the platform must be French for instance. So it’s not quite anything.
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    ... sure, but most french platforms / shops have media from everywhere
tomcooks 5y ago
When you build colonies in the Muslim world how do you expect Muslims not to be part of your culture? And what does Muslim art have to do with this, when Muslims are the 5% of French population? Do you think French culture should be inherently Catholic (~40%)? Or atheist/agnostic (~40%). Moreover, if you re read the article I think you'll see that you can spend the bonus as you like.
- bigmattystyles 5y ago
  You’re making my point (I think) - I was using the Muslim angle as an example of an integral part of France that some might wish to exclude or diminish. Are you free to consume art from any French person or are you free to consume art from only what a committee deems French? As far as rereading the article it says there’s an app and you can spend the money within it but presumably the content within is vetted. It also says major French platforms like canal+ but that’s it. It does explicitly rule out Netflix, Disney, Spotify and more. So it’s definitely not anything.

tomcooks 5y ago

The good french workers paid for the soon to be workers to be cultured enough, in the hope they'll become good french workers and sustain the next generations. Welfare, helping each other, not being an egoist you know

timwaagh 5y ago
This isn't welfare, you know. Perhaps live in a country that has it to learn what it is. It serves the purpose of not letting people starve. It's not about this kind of decadence.