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Here are some stats on fossil fuel deaths in general https://youtu.be/Jzfpyo-q-RM?t=355 https://youtu.be/Jzfpyo-q-RM?t=355 On average in the US, the CO2 outpu

Here are some stats on fossil fuel deaths in general https://youtu.be/Jzfpyo-q-RM?t=355 https://youtu.be/Jzfpyo-q-RM?t=355 On average in the US, the CO2 output required to power an electric vehicle is 1/3 of an ICE vehicle. So theoretically this would translate to less deaths as bb123 suggests, but hard to compare to direct pedestrian deaths. (Yes there are some logical gaps as ICE C02 output is a very low percentage of total fossil fuel output).

andys627 5y ago
Remember the emissions to manufacture the vehicle... they're higher for EVs. Lifecycle emissions for EVs therefore aren't much lower than ICE.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  The lifetime emissions for EVs are massively lower than ICE's, unless the EV gets totalled in its first year of operation.
  - andys627 5y ago
    They are maybe 40-50% lower. Does this move the needle for climate change? No. And it’s not just lifetime car emissions. It’s the car dependent life that cars require Source: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129478_lifetime-carbon-emissions-for-evs-is-much-lower-than-previously-suggested-study-highlights-errors https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129478_lifetime-carbon...
    - bryanlarsen 5y ago
      It's only 50% lower because most electricity grids emit a lot of carbon. Once the grid switches to 100% carbon-free, the number becomes a lot lower. And most of the embodied carbon in the car comes from industrial electricity or transport, so as the grid & transport goes green the embodied carbon goes down, eventually to zero. Electricity only accounts for about 25% of greenhouse gas emissions, but it also enables industry (20%) and transportation (15%) to decarbonize too, by allowing them to replace their fuel with electricity. A 50% reduction is already massive, but electrification of both vehicles and the industrial processes creating the vehicle will eventually let that number go to zero which should be our goal.
- soperj 5y ago
  if you're adding those, you need to add the emissions when actually processing crude oil into gasoline.
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andys627 5y ago

Remember the emissions to manufacture the vehicle... they're higher for EVs. Lifecycle emissions for EVs therefore aren't much lower than ICE.

bryanlarsen 5y ago
The lifetime emissions for EVs are massively lower than ICE's, unless the EV gets totalled in its first year of operation.
- andys627 5y ago
  They are maybe 40-50% lower. Does this move the needle for climate change? No. And it’s not just lifetime car emissions. It’s the car dependent life that cars require Source: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129478_lifetime-carbon-emissions-for-evs-is-much-lower-than-previously-suggested-study-highlights-errors https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129478_lifetime-carbon...
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    It's only 50% lower because most electricity grids emit a lot of carbon. Once the grid switches to 100% carbon-free, the number becomes a lot lower. And most of the embodied carbon in the car comes from industrial electricity or transport, so as the grid & transport goes green the embodied carbon goes down, eventually to zero. Electricity only accounts for about 25% of greenhouse gas emissions, but it also enables industry (20%) and transportation (15%) to decarbonize too, by allowing them to replace their fuel with electricity. A 50% reduction is already massive, but electrification of both vehicles and the industrial processes creating the vehicle will eventually let that number go to zero which should be our goal.
soperj 5y ago
if you're adding those, you need to add the emissions when actually processing crude oil into gasoline.
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