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I gotta say, I am very impressed by what I've seen with the F-150. It's clear that a LOT of thought has gone into this product and Ford clearly understands thei

I gotta say, I am very impressed by what I've seen with the F-150. It's clear that a LOT of thought has gone into this product and Ford clearly understands their target audience extremely well. There are so many nice features that are so well tailored to folks who buy trucks. All the features to power job sites, etc is really sweet and I can totally see that being super handy. Heck, it would make it super easy to work on projects in my driveway without any worries. Storage with the massive frunk is awesome. Lots of features around hitches and making it easier to use them and tow with them. Pretty good price point, good acceleration to appeal to the macho truck crowd who will hold their nose while making the plunge to electric so they can feel good about themselves when they floor the accelerator at stoplights and onramps. There is something for everyone here. Yes, it plays it safe on the aesthetics side of things, but I don't see anything wrong with it. The "safer" aesthetics also make it more useful than the Cybertruck, what with the massive Frunk. Really glad to see some good competition in this space. The next 2 years are going to be really exciting in the EV space!

mywittyname 5y ago
The only gotcha with this, is that F150s are huge. I have an oversized garage and an F150 will barely fit. Many of my full-size truck driving neighbors opt to park in the driveway because they turn a modern two car garage into a 1.5 car garage unless designed specifically for giant vehicles. I haven't seen consumer chargers that are designed to be installed outside. Most people have wall chargers in their garages, but I don't thing this is going to work for the majority of F150 home owners. That being said, this is an otherwise incredible vehicle. The F150 is pretty much the ultimate vehicle for someone with enough space for one, and this improves upon it in nearly every way.
- pwagland 5y ago
  At least in Europe, pretty much _all_ chargers are designed to be installed outdoors, as pretty much no-one has a garage anyway. So outdoor charging should not be an issue.
  - scotu 5y ago
    (European here) do you mean in city centers? Most houses not in historic city centers have garages in Italy afaik
    - gjhr 5y ago
      Here in the UK lots of people have garages but I'd actually guess its more common to use them for storage than to keep a car in. Everyone I know who has an electric car keeps it on the drive with an outside charging point.
  - vinay427 5y ago
    Underground (or partially underground) parking garages are fairly common for newer and especially fancier apartment buildings where I live. I'm not sure how common electric car chargers are in these garages, however.
- jacurtis 5y ago
  I own an F150 Platinum with the 6.5ft bed (most are only 5ft beds), and my truck won't fit in my standard size garage. It is simply too long.
- Tiktaalik 5y ago
  Electric or not, trucks have been getting so big in recent years it's becoming pretty absurd.
- kingnothing 5y ago
  The Siemens US2 VersiCharge is a pretty popular consumer charger that's designed to be weatherproof. I have one in my garage, but I've seen them installed in parking lots for commercial use, too.
- outworlder 5y ago
  > I haven't seen consumer chargers that are designed to be installed outside Most can be installed outside, specially if they are hardwired. Not sure if there are any rated to be plugged in outdoor power outlets.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  I'm still waiting on the F350 EV :)
- Breza 5y ago
  I live in Washington DC. My neighbors with electric cars just plug them in even though we lack garages.
bigtex 5y ago
Ford has said they reused much of the same parts for the ICE F150 so it makes sense they look very similar. This will also help the model be profitable as well.
Someone1234 5y ago
I could legitimately see every job site having at least one as a rolling power station. That could be a very useful and popular niche, construction sites without power at early phases of construction aren't rare and power tool batteries are expensive.
- seem_2211 5y ago
  I would be really interested in understanding the breakdown in F150's as sold by model number. For a lot of truck owners, there's going to be some resistance because they love having a v8 engine etc. I don't see those people moving over quickly (although they might be swayed by the acceleration/speed). But if you're using one as a tradesperson, this seems like an absolute no-brainer. You're not driving enormous distances regularly and if you're able to run your entire job site for free, as well as have lower servicing costs... why wouldn't you?
  - jrsj 5y ago
    Many new trucks have used turbo V6s instead of V8s for awhile now. There’s definitely some buyers who just want the sound of a V8 or don’t quite trust the reliability of a twin turbo BUT I think more people would be open to electric than you would think, even in people primarily just using them for transportation
    - seem_2211 5y ago
      Couldn't agree more. I'd hazard a guess that 90% of car users aren't wedded to using gas. There are enthusiasts, but they are a small minority.
      - nexuist 5y ago
        I don't know a single person who enjoys going to a gas station. Paying $40 a week just to hear some loud noise is an incredibly lame proposition, and only makes sense if you drive your truck for fun instead of utility. Most people buy a car for work, so avoiding the pump is a huge bonus. I'm sure gas guzzler enthusiasts will continue to exist, but the financials don't make sense; it would be far cheaper for them to daily drive an EV and keep the old guzzler for fun days. They'd save on gas and maintenance by not driving an ICE all the time, and they still get to use it whenever they have free time. In conclusion, my argument is that Ford/whoever will still eventually capture these enthusiasts, because they can still keep their old trucks but will always eventually need a new one.
jdhzzz 5y ago
> good acceleration to appeal to the macho truck crowd who will hold their nose while making the plunge to electric so they can feel good about themselves when they floor the accelerator at stoplights and onramps. I have a Mustang Mach e and can't emphasize this enough. It makes tooling around my suburban enclave a pleasure as I go from 0 to 30 mph in a blink. I entered an on-ramp with a BMW behind me. Honestly, I wasn't trying to make a point, but the BMW swung around me as we entered the highway and it was on. Then it was done. Giggle.

mywittyname 5y ago

The only gotcha with this, is that F150s are huge. I have an oversized garage and an F150 will barely fit. Many of my full-size truck driving neighbors opt to park in the driveway because they turn a modern two car garage into a 1.5 car garage unless designed specifically for giant vehicles. I haven't seen consumer chargers that are designed to be installed outside. Most people have wall chargers in their garages, but I don't thing this is going to work for the majority of F150 home owners. That being said, this is an otherwise incredible vehicle. The F150 is pretty much the ultimate vehicle for someone with enough space for one, and this improves upon it in nearly every way.

pwagland 5y ago
At least in Europe, pretty much _all_ chargers are designed to be installed outdoors, as pretty much no-one has a garage anyway. So outdoor charging should not be an issue.
- scotu 5y ago
  (European here) do you mean in city centers? Most houses not in historic city centers have garages in Italy afaik
  - gjhr 5y ago
    Here in the UK lots of people have garages but I'd actually guess its more common to use them for storage than to keep a car in. Everyone I know who has an electric car keeps it on the drive with an outside charging point.
- vinay427 5y ago
  Underground (or partially underground) parking garages are fairly common for newer and especially fancier apartment buildings where I live. I'm not sure how common electric car chargers are in these garages, however.
jacurtis 5y ago
I own an F150 Platinum with the 6.5ft bed (most are only 5ft beds), and my truck won't fit in my standard size garage. It is simply too long.
Tiktaalik 5y ago
Electric or not, trucks have been getting so big in recent years it's becoming pretty absurd.
kingnothing 5y ago
The Siemens US2 VersiCharge is a pretty popular consumer charger that's designed to be weatherproof. I have one in my garage, but I've seen them installed in parking lots for commercial use, too.
outworlder 5y ago
> I haven't seen consumer chargers that are designed to be installed outside Most can be installed outside, specially if they are hardwired. Not sure if there are any rated to be plugged in outdoor power outlets.
PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
I'm still waiting on the F350 EV :)
Breza 5y ago
I live in Washington DC. My neighbors with electric cars just plug them in even though we lack garages.

bigtex 5y ago

Ford has said they reused much of the same parts for the ICE F150 so it makes sense they look very similar. This will also help the model be profitable as well.

Someone1234 5y ago

I could legitimately see every job site having at least one as a rolling power station. That could be a very useful and popular niche, construction sites without power at early phases of construction aren't rare and power tool batteries are expensive.

seem_2211 5y ago
I would be really interested in understanding the breakdown in F150's as sold by model number. For a lot of truck owners, there's going to be some resistance because they love having a v8 engine etc. I don't see those people moving over quickly (although they might be swayed by the acceleration/speed). But if you're using one as a tradesperson, this seems like an absolute no-brainer. You're not driving enormous distances regularly and if you're able to run your entire job site for free, as well as have lower servicing costs... why wouldn't you?
- jrsj 5y ago
  Many new trucks have used turbo V6s instead of V8s for awhile now. There’s definitely some buyers who just want the sound of a V8 or don’t quite trust the reliability of a twin turbo BUT I think more people would be open to electric than you would think, even in people primarily just using them for transportation
  - seem_2211 5y ago
    Couldn't agree more. I'd hazard a guess that 90% of car users aren't wedded to using gas. There are enthusiasts, but they are a small minority.
    - nexuist 5y ago
      I don't know a single person who enjoys going to a gas station. Paying $40 a week just to hear some loud noise is an incredibly lame proposition, and only makes sense if you drive your truck for fun instead of utility. Most people buy a car for work, so avoiding the pump is a huge bonus. I'm sure gas guzzler enthusiasts will continue to exist, but the financials don't make sense; it would be far cheaper for them to daily drive an EV and keep the old guzzler for fun days. They'd save on gas and maintenance by not driving an ICE all the time, and they still get to use it whenever they have free time. In conclusion, my argument is that Ford/whoever will still eventually capture these enthusiasts, because they can still keep their old trucks but will always eventually need a new one.

jdhzzz 5y ago

> good acceleration to appeal to the macho truck crowd who will hold their nose while making the plunge to electric so they can feel good about themselves when they floor the accelerator at stoplights and onramps. I have a Mustang Mach e and can't emphasize this enough. It makes tooling around my suburban enclave a pleasure as I go from 0 to 30 mph in a blink. I entered an on-ramp with a BMW behind me. Honestly, I wasn't trying to make a point, but the BMW swung around me as we entered the highway and it was on. Then it was done. Giggle.