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That doesn't explain the rationale why such a thing in particular would be irresponsible and not other technologies.

by shawnz 5y ago

Nursie 5y ago
Who says other things are all perfectly responsible? I didn't.
- shawnz 5y ago
  I never claimed you did. I am just saying that you haven't justified why Bitcoin is actually an irresponsible use of energy. What makes its usage level irresponsible? Why is it more irresponsible than other technologies which use more energy than it?
  - Nursie 5y ago
    > What makes its usage level irresponsible? New financial instrument using more power than most countries. Thought you might have got that by now. > Why is it more irresponsible than other technologies which use more energy than it? Nobody is making that argument. This is just whataboutery. But in general, the fact that it's a new financial instrument using more power than most countries, at a time when we have a global climate crisis brought on largely by our energy usage.
    - shawnz 5y ago
      > New financial instrument using more power than most countries. Thought you might have got that by now. But you haven't justified why that is an irresponsible use. > Nobody is making that argument. This is just whataboutery. Yes, true, I guess you never claimed that the other ~99.4% of energy usage isn't actually less justified than Bitcoin. Sorry to imply otherwise.
      - Nursie 5y ago
        > But you haven't justified why that is an irresponsible use. Because it's just a financial instrument, and it uses more power than the Netherlands, and we have a climate crisis going on. I'm not sure what it is you don't see here. Any new financial instrument that added a whole country to the energy map like that would be a bad thing.
        shawnz 5y ago
        You are implying that's an obvious judgement but the wide ranges of opinions in the daily cryptocurrency threads on here should clearly show you that it is NOT an obvious judgement. Why are financial instruments not important enough to warrant a measly 0.6% of worldwide consumption?
        Nursie 5y ago
        Such opinions on the cryptocurrency threads tend to come from biased/invested sources who want to either whitewash or ignore it, very few even try to justify it, just dismiss concerns. It's not measly, it's enough for entire countries of many millions of people. Most countries in fact. That you seek to cast it as "measly" shows that you also are simply seeking to dismiss or whitewash, rather than take the issue seriously.

That doesn't explain the rationale why such a thing in particular would be irresponsible and not other technologies.

by shawnz 5y ago

That doesn't explain the rationale why such a thing in particular would be irresponsible and not other technologies.

Nursie 5y ago

Who says other things are all perfectly responsible? I didn't.

shawnz 5y ago
I never claimed you did. I am just saying that you haven't justified why Bitcoin is actually an irresponsible use of energy. What makes its usage level irresponsible? Why is it more irresponsible than other technologies which use more energy than it?
- Nursie 5y ago
  > What makes its usage level irresponsible? New financial instrument using more power than most countries. Thought you might have got that by now. > Why is it more irresponsible than other technologies which use more energy than it? Nobody is making that argument. This is just whataboutery. But in general, the fact that it's a new financial instrument using more power than most countries, at a time when we have a global climate crisis brought on largely by our energy usage.
  - shawnz 5y ago
    > New financial instrument using more power than most countries. Thought you might have got that by now. But you haven't justified why that is an irresponsible use. > Nobody is making that argument. This is just whataboutery. Yes, true, I guess you never claimed that the other ~99.4% of energy usage isn't actually less justified than Bitcoin. Sorry to imply otherwise.
    - Nursie 5y ago
      > But you haven't justified why that is an irresponsible use. Because it's just a financial instrument, and it uses more power than the Netherlands, and we have a climate crisis going on. I'm not sure what it is you don't see here. Any new financial instrument that added a whole country to the energy map like that would be a bad thing.
      - shawnz 5y ago
        You are implying that's an obvious judgement but the wide ranges of opinions in the daily cryptocurrency threads on here should clearly show you that it is NOT an obvious judgement. Why are financial instruments not important enough to warrant a measly 0.6% of worldwide consumption?
        Nursie 5y ago
        Such opinions on the cryptocurrency threads tend to come from biased/invested sources who want to either whitewash or ignore it, very few even try to justify it, just dismiss concerns. It's not measly, it's enough for entire countries of many millions of people. Most countries in fact. That you seek to cast it as "measly" shows that you also are simply seeking to dismiss or whitewash, rather than take the issue seriously.