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I don't understand how these things keep coming up. You can delete your account on Facebook. This is fact. You can export your data from Facebook. That is fact.

by reso 15y ago

I don't understand how these things keep coming up. You can delete your account on Facebook. This is fact. You can export your data from Facebook. That is fact. What was once true is not necessarily true today. Google operates with 30x more engineers than Facebook does. Their bandwidth is exceedingly larger, and this is why features secondary to the user-experience, like data-portability, have historically been lower prioritized at Facebook.

fjarlq 15y ago
After being frustrated for a long time by such issues, I think people are reluctant to immediately forgive and forget. After all, these issues are part of a larger pattern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook The Instant Personalization issue was the straw that finally broke the back for me. Without my permission, my Facebook info was suddenly being used to personalize non-Facebook websites[1], and in order to fully opt-out of that you had to visit each application and block it[2]. [1] http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Facebook-Privacy-Concerns-Resurface-in-Senators-Complaint-283526/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Facebook-Privacy-Concerns-... [2] http://librarianbyday.net/2010/04/22/protect-your-privacy-opt-out-of-facebooks-new-instant-personalization-yes-you-have-to-opt-out/ http://librarianbyday.net/2010/04/22/protect-your-privacy-op... I don't know what Facebook did (if anything) to address these issues, and frankly, I don't care. I was tired of having to keep track of the parade of new privacy concerns about Facebook. It seemed every few weeks they added a new feature that required me to once again adjust my settings to opt-out of it. Once they even reset some of the security settings I had previously made, making them more permissive. So, it is not surprising to me at all how these things "keep coming up".
robryan 15y ago
From what I've seen of the Facebook data export, which was a little while ago now it's pretty much just a token effort to get people off their backs. If they really cared about this aspect, and they don't because max lock in is their goal, they would either provide proper formats that other services can plug into like csv, json or xml or provide an api which users could authorize 3rd parties to access their data to export. Also can you truly delete your Facebook account? As I understand the process if you log back in it is restored meaning that they don't remove the data?

by reso 15y ago

fjarlq 15y ago

After being frustrated for a long time by such issues, I think people are reluctant to immediately forgive and forget. After all, these issues are part of a larger pattern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook The Instant Personalization issue was the straw that finally broke the back for me. Without my permission, my Facebook info was suddenly being used to personalize non-Facebook websites[1], and in order to fully opt-out of that you had to visit each application and block it[2]. [1] http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Facebook-Privacy-Concerns-Resurface-in-Senators-Complaint-283526/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Facebook-Privacy-Concerns-... [2] http://librarianbyday.net/2010/04/22/protect-your-privacy-opt-out-of-facebooks-new-instant-personalization-yes-you-have-to-opt-out/ http://librarianbyday.net/2010/04/22/protect-your-privacy-op... I don't know what Facebook did (if anything) to address these issues, and frankly, I don't care. I was tired of having to keep track of the parade of new privacy concerns about Facebook. It seemed every few weeks they added a new feature that required me to once again adjust my settings to opt-out of it. Once they even reset some of the security settings I had previously made, making them more permissive. So, it is not surprising to me at all how these things "keep coming up".

robryan 15y ago

From what I've seen of the Facebook data export, which was a little while ago now it's pretty much just a token effort to get people off their backs. If they really cared about this aspect, and they don't because max lock in is their goal, they would either provide proper formats that other services can plug into like csv, json or xml or provide an api which users could authorize 3rd parties to access their data to export. Also can you truly delete your Facebook account? As I understand the process if you log back in it is restored meaning that they don't remove the data?