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Reagan is not 'the right'. He's a member of the Republican party who served 50 years ago. And again, universal health care only saves money if you start with th

Reagan is not 'the right'. He's a member of the Republican party who served 50 years ago. And again, universal health care only saves money if you start with the basis that the government will force private companies to take on customers that can't pay for service, something that is very much not a right wing ideology. I'm not saying it's a bad idea or a good idea, I'm just saying there is no basis for universal healthcare that doesn't start with 'we need to help people'. Same with social security. Same with many other left wing policies. A lot of the problems around market inefficiency in healthcare are perfectly solvable without helping the poor.

ABeeSea 5y ago
> if you start with the basis that the government will force private companies to take on customers that can't pay for service, EMTALA already does this and I don’t see a push on the right to repeal EMTALA. Universal healthcare is a more efficient model of what is already happening.
- BobbyJo 5y ago
  I also don't see a push from republicans to repeal social security. That doesn't mean it isn't a socialist policy.
  - ABeeSea 5y ago
    Are you saying EMTALA (people not left to die on the street) is socialism? I don’t think that meets the definition of socialism.
    - BobbyJo 5y ago
      No, I'm saying something being supported (or at least not repealed) by republicans doesn't make it ideologically right wing. Republicans, like democrats, have a wide variety of beliefs in their platforms, both right and left.
  - DFHippie 5y ago
    Here: https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-the-2005-social-security-initiative-failed-and-what-it-means-for-the-future/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-the-2005-social-secur... It wasn't sold as a push to repeal Social Security, because that polls extremely badly, but that's what it was.
  - rmah 5y ago
    Repealing social security has been a wink-wink, nudge-nudge part of the unspoken Republican platform since social security was created.

ABeeSea 5y ago

> if you start with the basis that the government will force private companies to take on customers that can't pay for service, EMTALA already does this and I don’t see a push on the right to repeal EMTALA. Universal healthcare is a more efficient model of what is already happening.

BobbyJo 5y ago
I also don't see a push from republicans to repeal social security. That doesn't mean it isn't a socialist policy.
- ABeeSea 5y ago
  Are you saying EMTALA (people not left to die on the street) is socialism? I don’t think that meets the definition of socialism.
  - BobbyJo 5y ago
    No, I'm saying something being supported (or at least not repealed) by republicans doesn't make it ideologically right wing. Republicans, like democrats, have a wide variety of beliefs in their platforms, both right and left.
- DFHippie 5y ago
  Here: https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-the-2005-social-security-initiative-failed-and-what-it-means-for-the-future/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-the-2005-social-secur... It wasn't sold as a push to repeal Social Security, because that polls extremely badly, but that's what it was.
- rmah 5y ago
  Repealing social security has been a wink-wink, nudge-nudge part of the unspoken Republican platform since social security was created.