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In the same vein I remember the first time I was able to use a phone to access "internet" from a computer. The "internet access" that the phone had to offer was

by hnjst 5y ago

In the same vein I remember the first time I was able to use a phone to access "internet" from a computer. The "internet access" that the phone had to offer was called "WAP" and I was communicating with the phone via infrared (wireless \o/), you had to dial cabalistic symbols from the computer and to be really careful using their proxy to avoid sell-an-organ level out of plan charges. After that Android's deceptively straightforward tethering feature was almost saddening...

jdlyga 5y ago
I used to love WAP on my flip phone. It was perfect for scrolling through bash.org
Tijdreiziger 5y ago
> After that Android's deceptively straightforward tethering feature was almost saddening... Ha - you should've seen early iPhone tethering. Back in those days, net neutrality wasn't a legal right yet (at least here in the Netherlands), so the carriers would push a profile to your phone that disabled tethering. The solution, of course, was to jailbreak your phone and install a tweak that turned it back on.
- easrng 5y ago
  Carriers still do that. I can only do tethering by running a SOCKS proxy in Termux and forwarding the port with adb.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > Back in those days, net neutrality wasn't a legal right yet (at least here in the Netherlands) ... You must live in the future!
  - hnjst 5y ago
    I'm also not aware of net neutrality being protected in Europe yet. I think I recall ongoing initiatives aiming at that but I'm pretty sure even these don't cover cellular data networks. I think that, for example, plans including unmetered access for specific services are still a thing (say unlimited Facebook usage, exempt from regular data plan limits).
    - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
      > I think that, for example, plans including unmetered access for specific services are still a thing (say unlimited Facebook usage, exempt from regular data plan limits). Ah yes, the infamous 'zero rating'... this is currently the only hole in the net neutrality regulation. However, apart from that, net neutrality is indeed a legal right in the EU. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32015R2120 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... https://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter/berec/regulatory_best_practices/guidelines/6160-berec-guidelines-on-the-implementation-by-national-regulators-of-european-net-neutrality-rules https://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter...
- fomine3 5y ago
  I remembered that some apps had passed review and released with hidden tethering feature, then discovered, then banned.
m4rtink 5y ago
I remember using infraport tethering from my Sony Ericsson 68i to my Palm Tungten T and it worked fine - good enough for ICQ, telnet and IIRC some lightweight webbrowsing. Also you could feel finally living the future. :) Even though I never did get a Sharp Zaurus in the end, I migrated directly from Palm TX Neoo FreeRunner and to Nokia N900 and the rest is history. And I'm running Sailfis OS on my Xperia X now. :)

by hnjst 5y ago

jdlyga 5y ago

I used to love WAP on my flip phone. It was perfect for scrolling through bash.org

Tijdreiziger 5y ago

> After that Android's deceptively straightforward tethering feature was almost saddening... Ha - you should've seen early iPhone tethering. Back in those days, net neutrality wasn't a legal right yet (at least here in the Netherlands), so the carriers would push a profile to your phone that disabled tethering. The solution, of course, was to jailbreak your phone and install a tweak that turned it back on.

easrng 5y ago
Carriers still do that. I can only do tethering by running a SOCKS proxy in Termux and forwarding the port with adb.
wolverine876 5y ago
> Back in those days, net neutrality wasn't a legal right yet (at least here in the Netherlands) ... You must live in the future!
- hnjst 5y ago
  I'm also not aware of net neutrality being protected in Europe yet. I think I recall ongoing initiatives aiming at that but I'm pretty sure even these don't cover cellular data networks. I think that, for example, plans including unmetered access for specific services are still a thing (say unlimited Facebook usage, exempt from regular data plan limits).
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    > I think that, for example, plans including unmetered access for specific services are still a thing (say unlimited Facebook usage, exempt from regular data plan limits). Ah yes, the infamous 'zero rating'... this is currently the only hole in the net neutrality regulation. However, apart from that, net neutrality is indeed a legal right in the EU. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32015R2120 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... https://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter/berec/regulatory_best_practices/guidelines/6160-berec-guidelines-on-the-implementation-by-national-regulators-of-european-net-neutrality-rules https://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter...
fomine3 5y ago
I remembered that some apps had passed review and released with hidden tethering feature, then discovered, then banned.

m4rtink 5y ago

I remember using infraport tethering from my Sony Ericsson 68i to my Palm Tungten T and it worked fine - good enough for ICQ, telnet and IIRC some lightweight webbrowsing. Also you could feel finally living the future. :) Even though I never did get a Sharp Zaurus in the end, I migrated directly from Palm TX Neoo FreeRunner and to Nokia N900 and the rest is history. And I'm running Sailfis OS on my Xperia X now. :)