> I feel like you really have to be a hobbyist coffee drinker to appreciate this thing... That's the lesson I've learned years of trying to improve my brewing

> I feel like you really have to be a hobbyist coffee drinker to appreciate this thing... That's the lesson I've learned years of trying to improve my brewing skills and watching James Hoffman videos. I just want a decent espresso or regular coffee. I do not want another hobby, especially one I'd have to do before my morning coffee. It took a long time, any many expensive espresso related products, but come to the realization that I can be happy with the kind of coffee I can make with a minimum of fuss, and that feels good.