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> That's interesting. I'm a portuguese language native, and I can relate, but not because we talk like this in portuguese: The chap in question was from Portug

> That's interesting. I'm a portuguese language native, and I can relate, but not because we talk like this in portuguese: The chap in question was from Portugal. If I understand correctly from your website, you're from Brazil, right? Is there any difference between how that word would be used in Brazilian vs European Portuguese?

ORioN63 5y ago
I'm from Portugal. I'm not aware of any difference regarding that word in particular, but tbh I wouldn't know. I'm always surprised with some of the differences I find from time to time. I can tell you though, that using the word "periferia" is actually common in some place (although a bit rare in most). It's mostly used as a synonym for 'around the borders'. The example you've mentioned: "move the burgers to the periphery of the barbecue", actually seems perfectly fine. It seems a little bit over-detailed, I guess that a bit context-dependent but I wouldn't bat an eye to the equivalent of "move them to the periphery". From what I recall 'periferia' is also commonly used in TV news.
- kelnos 5y ago
  In case it wasn't clear (I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but maybe I missed it), it's not that "periphery" is overly-detailed, it's just an overly-formal, uncommon word. I think the more common phrase would be "move the burgers to the side of the barbecue". "Edge" might also be used too, which is probably a little clearer.
tcgv 5y ago
That's right, I'm from Brazil! The meaning is the same, both in Brazil and in Portugal. As a curiosity the two countries (along with others) are part of the Portuguese Language Orthographic Agreement of 1990 [1] whose purpose was to create a unified orthography for the Portuguese language, to be used by all the countries that have Portuguese as their official language. Nonetheless there is a lot of differences in usage, mostly regarding the "popular" vocabulary. Some heavily used words in one country are less frequently used in the other. There's also a noticeable difference in the accent. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Language_Orthographic_Agreement_of_1990 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Language_Orthograph...
- myohmy 5y ago
  Honestly we need the same for English.
  - pessimizer 5y ago
    No, our orthography is terrible. We should let it slip towards rationality in any of the tiny ways it tries.
  - henvic 5y ago
    No. Just let the language naturally evolve. This "agreement" was an awful thing forced down by political forces. Context: I'm Brazilian and during high school I studied Portuguese "one official version behind". It had more rules, but the language itself was way nicer, and people used to write more close to it, than nowadays. It's better to have a few mistakes due to some archaic rules than to force everything to be sterile and complicate how you pronounce things IMHO Just let people evolve the language naturally instead...

ORioN63 5y ago

I'm from Portugal. I'm not aware of any difference regarding that word in particular, but tbh I wouldn't know. I'm always surprised with some of the differences I find from time to time. I can tell you though, that using the word "periferia" is actually common in some place (although a bit rare in most). It's mostly used as a synonym for 'around the borders'. The example you've mentioned: "move the burgers to the periphery of the barbecue", actually seems perfectly fine. It seems a little bit over-detailed, I guess that a bit context-dependent but I wouldn't bat an eye to the equivalent of "move them to the periphery". From what I recall 'periferia' is also commonly used in TV news.

kelnos 5y ago
In case it wasn't clear (I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but maybe I missed it), it's not that "periphery" is overly-detailed, it's just an overly-formal, uncommon word. I think the more common phrase would be "move the burgers to the side of the barbecue". "Edge" might also be used too, which is probably a little clearer.

tcgv 5y ago

That's right, I'm from Brazil! The meaning is the same, both in Brazil and in Portugal. As a curiosity the two countries (along with others) are part of the Portuguese Language Orthographic Agreement of 1990 [1] whose purpose was to create a unified orthography for the Portuguese language, to be used by all the countries that have Portuguese as their official language. Nonetheless there is a lot of differences in usage, mostly regarding the "popular" vocabulary. Some heavily used words in one country are less frequently used in the other. There's also a noticeable difference in the accent. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Language_Orthographic_Agreement_of_1990 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Language_Orthograph...

myohmy 5y ago
Honestly we need the same for English.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  No, our orthography is terrible. We should let it slip towards rationality in any of the tiny ways it tries.
- henvic 5y ago
  No. Just let the language naturally evolve. This "agreement" was an awful thing forced down by political forces. Context: I'm Brazilian and during high school I studied Portuguese "one official version behind". It had more rules, but the language itself was way nicer, and people used to write more close to it, than nowadays. It's better to have a few mistakes due to some archaic rules than to force everything to be sterile and complicate how you pronounce things IMHO Just let people evolve the language naturally instead...