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I'm curious how the UI looks to other people, because "all in once place" isn't really a complaint I can understand about the Twitter UI I'm seeing. There's but

I'm curious how the UI looks to other people, because "all in once place" isn't really a complaint I can understand about the Twitter UI I'm seeing. There's buttons and stuff between tweets, but with 280 characters per tweet (140 was definitely less readable) they're not significantly more difficult to read on Twitter than they are in the paragraphs you posted.

thrdbndndn 5y ago
Yeah, I prefer threadreaderapp over Twitter's native UI for reading long threads all day everyday, but don't find the native one difficult to read. My only complaint is when the thread is long, Twitter will start not showing it all at once. You have to click the last tweet to see anything after it. But again, threadreaderapp itself also has trouble to feed all the parts of a super long thread.
- flanbiscuit 5y ago
  Thank you for this! I have seen this before but I forgot the name. Bookmarking it and I'll probably create a simple bookmarklet so that I can quickly open it up on the current tweet edit: in case anyone is interested, here's the code for the bookmarklet to turn the current tweet into a threadapp thread. This is not very deeply tested but it worked with the current tweet above so YMMV: javascript:(function(){window.location.href = 'https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/' + window.location.pathname.split('/').pop(); })();
bonoboTP 5y ago
And you have to click on "Show this thread" at the end to see more, otherwise you only see some of the tweets. And yes, it's absolutely horrible that there are all those buttons and a repeated profile pic intruded at random points in the text, like in the middle of a damn word. I get that you need to tweet to get views and nobody reads blogs any more but this "Twitter thread" concept is a UX horror.
- aeyes 5y ago
  And "Show this thread" takes me to the comments first, I have to scroll up to see other messages by the author and the order seems incorrect.
stefan_ 5y ago
The Twitter web UI if you are not logged in is purposefully broken. Every so often, it will just show you "access denied" or "you don't have permission". It is the peak of dark patterns.
- wlesieutre 5y ago
  I think this is a bug rather than deliberately blocked. The on-page retry button will continuously fail, but if you go up to the address bar and keep hitting enter it will eventually work. Still embarrassing for a tech company of twitter's size. Displaying a tweet to a logged out user should be the single simplest job their service has, but it's usually broken.
  - jaypeg25 5y ago
    The fact that threaded tweet links like this don't work on non-official apps (I use Talon on Android), to me, is a sign that this is deliberate.
    - thrdbndndn 5y ago
      https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/133 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is... Twitter's thread/reply API has been changed a lot. It definitely works better now. I will also be honest, Talon basically isn't really updated any more. I remembered the last time I used it, it has a bug that it will always re-save/re-compress the image when you download, which is very easy to fix, but the author didn't do anything about it. I just checked, the bug is still there.. https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/147 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is... and https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/105 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is...
    - newsclues 5y ago
      They need users, they rather avoid non-users that just want the content. Twitter is a private company but it has also become a public space for political discourse. The need for profits and open free speech are butting heads.
ksherlock 5y ago
To me it looks like : "Something went wrong. [Try again]". Clicking the try again button will never do anything. Reloading the page a few times will eventually load the tweet. Unless I'm on a mobile connection. And sometimes the web workers get screwed up and nothing will ever load until the browser is restarted. When it does load, chances are that it only shows one tweet from a thread followed by half a dozen unrelated tweets that twitter thinks I might want to read instead.

thrdbndndn 5y ago

Yeah, I prefer threadreaderapp over Twitter's native UI for reading long threads all day everyday, but don't find the native one difficult to read. My only complaint is when the thread is long, Twitter will start not showing it all at once. You have to click the last tweet to see anything after it. But again, threadreaderapp itself also has trouble to feed all the parts of a super long thread.

flanbiscuit 5y ago
Thank you for this! I have seen this before but I forgot the name. Bookmarking it and I'll probably create a simple bookmarklet so that I can quickly open it up on the current tweet edit: in case anyone is interested, here's the code for the bookmarklet to turn the current tweet into a threadapp thread. This is not very deeply tested but it worked with the current tweet above so YMMV: javascript:(function(){window.location.href = 'https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/' + window.location.pathname.split('/').pop(); })();

bonoboTP 5y ago

And you have to click on "Show this thread" at the end to see more, otherwise you only see some of the tweets. And yes, it's absolutely horrible that there are all those buttons and a repeated profile pic intruded at random points in the text, like in the middle of a damn word. I get that you need to tweet to get views and nobody reads blogs any more but this "Twitter thread" concept is a UX horror.

aeyes 5y ago
And "Show this thread" takes me to the comments first, I have to scroll up to see other messages by the author and the order seems incorrect.

stefan_ 5y ago

The Twitter web UI if you are not logged in is purposefully broken. Every so often, it will just show you "access denied" or "you don't have permission". It is the peak of dark patterns.

wlesieutre 5y ago
I think this is a bug rather than deliberately blocked. The on-page retry button will continuously fail, but if you go up to the address bar and keep hitting enter it will eventually work. Still embarrassing for a tech company of twitter's size. Displaying a tweet to a logged out user should be the single simplest job their service has, but it's usually broken.
- jaypeg25 5y ago
  The fact that threaded tweet links like this don't work on non-official apps (I use Talon on Android), to me, is a sign that this is deliberate.
  - thrdbndndn 5y ago
    https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/133 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is... Twitter's thread/reply API has been changed a lot. It definitely works better now. I will also be honest, Talon basically isn't really updated any more. I remembered the last time I used it, it has a bug that it will always re-save/re-compress the image when you download, which is very easy to fix, but the author didn't do anything about it. I just checked, the bug is still there.. https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/147 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is... and https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/issues/105 https://github.com/klinker-apps/talon-for-twitter-android/is...
  - newsclues 5y ago
    They need users, they rather avoid non-users that just want the content. Twitter is a private company but it has also become a public space for political discourse. The need for profits and open free speech are butting heads.

ksherlock 5y ago

To me it looks like : "Something went wrong. [Try again]". Clicking the try again button will never do anything. Reloading the page a few times will eventually load the tweet. Unless I'm on a mobile connection. And sometimes the web workers get screwed up and nothing will ever load until the browser is restarted. When it does load, chances are that it only shows one tweet from a thread followed by half a dozen unrelated tweets that twitter thinks I might want to read instead.