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Bribes of oper and money? Aka offering someone a job as a staff member? Am I understanding that correctly?
by that_guy_iain 5y ago
Bribes of oper and money? Aka offering someone a job as a staff member? Am I understanding that correctly?
- q3k 5y agoOffering a job position can be bribery. It's not a stretch to interpret that particular chat log as exactly that.
- that_guy_iain 5y agoBribery for what? What would they be getting other than someone to do staffer work for them?
- q3k 5y agoInfluence over the community's perception that freenode is still freenode, and that things are stable, because some staff is still on their side, and because an influential project (Alpine) stayed with freenode.
- inshadows 5y agoWhoa! There are now money in IRC?
- that_guy_iain 5y agoThe ex-Freenode staff seem to be saying there is. I am also confused.
- blibble 5y agoif he's truthful in saying he funded freenode with more than a million dollars... seems like it I wonder where that money went, especially considering the hosting for all the IRC servers is donated by its sponsors (ISPs)
- speeder 5y agoI read the log. That Shane person, literally told Ariadne she would have power to ban whoever she wants, screw with people she doesn't like, punish her enemies... She replied she have no enemies, he tried to point out that is still a good power to have and whatnot. She then explained to him that banning someone from Freenode can damage that person career if they are involved in FOSS community, considering how many important projects communicate only there and all. Later in the conversaion I saw something I interpreted as a kind-of threat too, when in a passing remark Shane mentioned her sexual fetishes. Then he implied that certain Linux distros have advantages in Freenode, and Alpine could have it too... I think you get the point, it is not just a job offer, the way he was writing looked like more someone trying to imitate characters in the Godfather movie.
- toyg 5y agoIt largely read like a hamfisted attempted at persuasion, I'm honestly not as scandalised as Ariadne seemed to be. This is par for the course in any political setting: help me and I'll help you. The foul smell simply comes from the way that guy Shane communicates - the short sentences, the somewhat-juvenile form, it feels like you're talking with an excited and vaguely sinister teenage salesman. I think he misjudged the type of person he was talking to, Ariadne clearly is not the stereotypical IRC kid.
- speeder 5y agoShane is not a teenager, neither Ariadne, Freenode is not a kiddie thing, Freenode founder was already adult when he founded it, they had a 503 setup in the US with all the bureaucracy, had to move to UK for legal reasons, had visits from the FBI (it is mentioned in one of the logs). Offering tools to ban your enemies, while you know the network even had FBI involved in it, doesn't sound to me like childish behaviour.
- toyg 5y agoI never said he was a teenager, I said he came off as one.