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Then travel more man. Trenitalia is pretty competent for whats out there. They even have boats to move entire train carriages with the passengers inside to isla

Then travel more man. Trenitalia is pretty competent for whats out there. They even have boats to move entire train carriages with the passengers inside to islands? That's pretty cool! Here in Spain we have RENFE, and they are pretty good overall, but pricey. I know that many lines run at deficit so they have to compensate with the ones that don't, but they recently launched AVLO as a low-cost service in response for OUIGO and private competitors coming to Spain, so there was probably ways to make it cheaper...

darkwater 5y ago
As an Italian living in Spain for a long while, I can say that 10 years ago the difference was abysmal in favor of Renfe and now the gap it's smaller (due to Renfe not keeping up) but I still think the average Spain's train station and service is better than Italy's. I can still see (refurbished for the 3rd time) trains from ~25years ago operating in Italy nowadays.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  >I can still see (refurbished for the 3rd time) trains from ~25years ago operating in Italy nowadays. If that's the problem, then do not try to use polish railways. You can still find non-modernized EN57 from 60s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKP_class_EN57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKP_class_EN57 Long distance trains can be no better tho... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/9737185/Frozen-lavatory-pictured-on-Polands-trains.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/973...
- fallingknife 5y ago
  I don't see why that's a problem. Airplanes have a lifespan of 30 years.
  - darkwater 5y ago
    OK, it's 2021 already, sometimes I forget, so we are probably already north of 30 years. Anyway as I said they have been refurbished and they are OK, at least on the comfort side (AC and heating, sits quality). I hope they are the same on the safety and mechanical side...

darkwater 5y ago

As an Italian living in Spain for a long while, I can say that 10 years ago the difference was abysmal in favor of Renfe and now the gap it's smaller (due to Renfe not keeping up) but I still think the average Spain's train station and service is better than Italy's. I can still see (refurbished for the 3rd time) trains from ~25years ago operating in Italy nowadays.

KptMarchewa 5y ago
>I can still see (refurbished for the 3rd time) trains from ~25years ago operating in Italy nowadays. If that's the problem, then do not try to use polish railways. You can still find non-modernized EN57 from 60s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKP_class_EN57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PKP_class_EN57 Long distance trains can be no better tho... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/9737185/Frozen-lavatory-pictured-on-Polands-trains.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/973...
fallingknife 5y ago
I don't see why that's a problem. Airplanes have a lifespan of 30 years.
- darkwater 5y ago
  OK, it's 2021 already, sometimes I forget, so we are probably already north of 30 years. Anyway as I said they have been refurbished and they are OK, at least on the comfort side (AC and heating, sits quality). I hope they are the same on the safety and mechanical side...