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A Conversation With Julian Assange, Slavoj Zizek & Amy Goodman (Live)

45 points by genesiss 15y ago

Ok, it's over - here is whole conversation: http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539748a-c5e0-4525-b3ca-570594482d97&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

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cheez 15y ago
How is this live? I thought Assange is under house arrest of some kind...
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- evangineer 15y ago
  Nope, he's on bail. As long as he doesn't break the conditions of the bail, he can pretty much do what he wants. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12988646 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12988646
  - Joakal 15y ago
    He made a video blog of his house arrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCNzU3u7G3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCNzU3u7G3o
    - cheez 15y ago
      Incredible.
genesiss 15y ago
It's over now, here is recording of the conversation: http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539748a-c5e0-4525-b3ca-570594482d97&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539...
- borism 15y ago
  thanks!
- genesiss 15y ago
  Skip to 21:30 for the beginning.
Perceval 15y ago
I'm in a poli-sci department with a bunch of continental political theorists. I cannot stand Slavok Žižek. Probably the biggest living bullshit artist in political theory.
- alsomike 15y ago
  Yes, Zizek has very little respect for conventions of academia.
- 127 15y ago
  I'm interested. Can you offer any source for this claim? I was considering of reading some of his writings but if he has to offer no value, I'd rather know in advance.
  - kingkawn 15y ago
    Relying on academics' opinions of their peers as a measure of value is not going to serve you well.
    - pjscott 15y ago
      Not all academic fields are so subjective. In math, science, engineering, and so on, it's entirely normal to build a good or bad reputation based on the actual quality of your work. (Full disclosure: about a year ago, I came to the conclusion that Zizek was full of shit, and that his main real skills were sounding profound, avoiding testable claims of any consequence, and getting other people to venerate him. I can't remember the specifics, though, so take this with the usual salt grain.)
      - n3m6 15y ago
        He talks about a lot of stuff and offers his opinion, which I guess you should take with a grain of salt. His actual field of expertise is in Ideology, and there I believe he can offer quite a lot. Regarding him "sounding profound", I guess it must be because of the way continental philosophers construct sentences, and us not being able to relate to their terms. If you thought he was bad, you should listen to someone like Derrida (he's dead btw).
blendergasket 15y ago
Assange claims to be being blackmailed over the bank docs he has. I wonder if the lawsuit he just filed is related to that in any way.
- borism 15y ago
  do you mean the complaint about illegal blocking of their funding by Visa and MasterCard? How would that be related in any way?
  - blendergasket 15y ago
    So what you're saying is there's absolutely no way these organizations are motivated to block the money going to the organization which threatens to publish their own secrets because of any threat to themselves?
    - borism 15y ago
      Blackmail != blocking money in many cases it's the exact opposite.
- cheez 15y ago
  Yeah, this is the first I've heard of the same thing. I wonder what the blackmail is? Maybe the CIA did some transfers into his BoA accounts to make it appear as if he is on the CIA payroll? Inquiring minds want to know!

45 points by genesiss 15y ago

Ok, it's over - here is whole conversation: http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539748a-c5e0-4525-b3ca-570594482d97&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

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cheez 15y ago

How is this live? I thought Assange is under house arrest of some kind...

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evangineer 15y ago
Nope, he's on bail. As long as he doesn't break the conditions of the bail, he can pretty much do what he wants. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12988646 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12988646
- Joakal 15y ago
  He made a video blog of his house arrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCNzU3u7G3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCNzU3u7G3o
  - cheez 15y ago
    Incredible.

genesiss 15y ago

It's over now, here is recording of the conversation: http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539748a-c5e0-4525-b3ca-570594482d97&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb http://www.livestream.com/democracynow/video?clipId=pla_b539...

borism 15y ago
thanks!
genesiss 15y ago
Skip to 21:30 for the beginning.

Perceval 15y ago

I'm in a poli-sci department with a bunch of continental political theorists. I cannot stand Slavok Žižek. Probably the biggest living bullshit artist in political theory.

alsomike 15y ago
Yes, Zizek has very little respect for conventions of academia.
127 15y ago
I'm interested. Can you offer any source for this claim? I was considering of reading some of his writings but if he has to offer no value, I'd rather know in advance.
- kingkawn 15y ago
  Relying on academics' opinions of their peers as a measure of value is not going to serve you well.
  - pjscott 15y ago
    Not all academic fields are so subjective. In math, science, engineering, and so on, it's entirely normal to build a good or bad reputation based on the actual quality of your work. (Full disclosure: about a year ago, I came to the conclusion that Zizek was full of shit, and that his main real skills were sounding profound, avoiding testable claims of any consequence, and getting other people to venerate him. I can't remember the specifics, though, so take this with the usual salt grain.)
    - n3m6 15y ago
      He talks about a lot of stuff and offers his opinion, which I guess you should take with a grain of salt. His actual field of expertise is in Ideology, and there I believe he can offer quite a lot. Regarding him "sounding profound", I guess it must be because of the way continental philosophers construct sentences, and us not being able to relate to their terms. If you thought he was bad, you should listen to someone like Derrida (he's dead btw).

blendergasket 15y ago

Assange claims to be being blackmailed over the bank docs he has. I wonder if the lawsuit he just filed is related to that in any way.

borism 15y ago
do you mean the complaint about illegal blocking of their funding by Visa and MasterCard? How would that be related in any way?
- blendergasket 15y ago
  So what you're saying is there's absolutely no way these organizations are motivated to block the money going to the organization which threatens to publish their own secrets because of any threat to themselves?
  - borism 15y ago
    Blackmail != blocking money in many cases it's the exact opposite.
cheez 15y ago
Yeah, this is the first I've heard of the same thing. I wonder what the blackmail is? Maybe the CIA did some transfers into his BoA accounts to make it appear as if he is on the CIA payroll? Inquiring minds want to know!