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I think most HN readers are intelligent enough to be able to consider the quality of advice as something separate from its source. That is, a source need not be
by jrm415 5y ago
I think most HN readers are intelligent enough to be able to consider the quality of advice as something separate from its source. That is, a source need not be perfect to be worth listening to.
Riot's obviously far from perfect, but this advice seems reasonable to me. Do you think following it is likely to lead to problems similar to Riot's? If there's some sort of causal link between empowering teams and failing to build an inclusive culture, I'd really find that interesting.
- fulafel 5y agoGood point, and to penalise companies practicing transparency also means boosting those that work to hide problems and fake the context in these kinds of interviews.
- user-the-name 5y agoWhat transparency are they being penalised for?
- colonwqbang 5y agoThe implication is that many companies have the problems which Riot are notorious for. They are just better at hiding them from public view.
- user-the-name 5y agoRiot wasn't transparent about them either. They just failed at hiding them.
- colonwqbang 5y agoI think that's what I wrote?
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- user-the-name 5y agoIgnoring context is not a sign of intelligence.
- Flex247A 5y agoIgnoring context where necessary is a sign of intelligence.
- user-the-name 5y agoIt really isn't.
- yesenadam 5y agoThe way you replied to a comment that mentioned people being "able to consider the quality of advice as something separate from its source" as if it had instead said "Ignoring context" breaks the guidelines in several places, e.g. Be kind...Please don't sneer...Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize etc.
- mikkergp 5y agoHow do you determine quality of advice separate from the source without research? "seeming reasonable to me" is not science; In a vacuum, all you have is one case study that links this set of advice to a toxic culture.
- an_opabinia 5y ago> If there's some sort of causal link between empowering teams and failing to build an inclusive culture... I don't know. Listen to yourself. There are a lot of companies out there that manage people well, and also didn't have such pervasive sexism problems. Let's talk about those instead. And before you say no such company exists, listen, I personally just don't say and do obviously sexist shit. It's really easy! A lot of people go their whole lives without farting on someone's face, unlike that Riot exec. So of course if you can't get these basic things right - if you don't know you can't fart on people's faces - why are we elevating your opinion on "self managed teams"? The bigger takeaway here is that their sexism problem was so much more devastating than their executives could have ever anticipated. It has miscolored every single aspect of what they do, a complete trashing of years of hard work by thousands of people. Why in the world would you ever want to work for these people? There are a lot of shitty MOBAs out there, truly, there is nothing they have besides a player count, that will someday be zero that no one else has or ever will have.