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Unsurprising outcome of systemic poverty and a complete lack of real social safety net. People want the homeless to simply go away and die quietly somewhere, b
by Tiktaalik 5y ago
Unsurprising outcome of systemic poverty and a complete lack of real social safety net.
People want the homeless to simply go away and die quietly somewhere, but no, people need to survive, and if need be petty theft is the way to continue living. People need food and people need to fed their chemical addictions. With the lack of services theft is an answer.
If people don't want to experience petty theft well then we need to ensure that every person has food and housing. Create a safe supply of free prescribed drugs so that people don't need to steal to get cash to buy drugs from the street.
These are simple solutions but of course they cost money, so if your top priority is keeping taxes low, well they're impossible and so the status quo of systemic poverty, misery and crime continues.
- disposekinetics 5y agoCalifornia is anything but a low tax place to live, but they also have tons and tons of property crime.
- rangoon626 5y agoNo, it’s an unsurprising outcome of a dysfunctional economy. Social safety nets won’t do anything. They never did. Cabrini Greene. Pruitt Igoe. War on poverty. Decades of all of that AND MORE, and what is the result? Even more in poverty. Give people a chance to work, build and grow, and find meaning in their lives, and the rest of these problems fix themselves. Unfortunately the oligarchs and plutocrats that run SF and the US at large have and continue to hollow out the lower and middle class way of life. WAKE UP!!!
- dahfizz 5y agoI don't understand how this can be your position when CA has both some of the highest taxes and best social safety net in the country, but also some of the worst homelessness and crime in the country.
- devoutsalsa 5y agoIt's super easy to end up homeless in CA. Just run out of money. Source: I ran out of money in CA in 2009, ended up homeless.
- pie420 5y agoThat's literally everywhere. California has one of the most tenant friendly landlord laws, so if you run out of money, California is probably the last state that you would become homeless due to how insanely long it takes for landlords to evict.
- devoutsalsa 5y agoI became homeless by choice. The thing you're missing is that if your landlord tries to evict you, you'll end up with a record of that eviction on your record. The next time you try to rent an apartment, you'll be super screwed. I was able to get enough money together a couple months after being homeless, and I was able to get another apartment because I didn't have an eviction on my record. Can you take advantage of the landlord by not paying rent for several months? Sure. But that's not a social safety net. It's an inefficiency in the system that will screw you if you use it, kind of like overdrawing a checking account & calling it free money.
- Tiktaalik 5y agoEven if they're best in the USA is lmao is that ever low bar if we're talking about social safety net.
- dahfizz 5y agoI'm just saying that the correlation doesn't make much sense. If more taxes and more government action was the "simple solution" as my parent said, then CA would have less homelessness and crime than the rest of the nation. The opposite is true.
- Tiktaalik 5y agoThe costs of living are higher in CA too
- dahfizz 5y agoAnd do you think very high taxes is a solution to this problem? Do you consider the high COL to be unrelated to the policies that CA has?
- Tiktaalik 5y agoI think the solution to homelessness and petty theft is to house people. Typically such housing is only deliverable by the state and taxes are a way to pay for it. I know that the status quo of not housing people is not going to solve homelessness. If California feels it is "tapped out" of taxing its citizens and yet is unable to build housing to house its population, maybe it needs to have a look at what it's spending its money on. (Of course the fact that Prop 13 exists means there's plenty of more tax room...)
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- darkhorse22 5y agoIf you read the article, you'd know that Walgreen attributes 85% of theft loss to organized crime. Nice screed tho.
- Tiktaalik 5y agoYeah and the article says the police don't agree.
- pie420 5y ago"complete lack of real social safety net." What are you talking about? San Francisco has one of the most comprehensive, robust, and we'll funded social safety nets in america, and probably on par with some Scandinavian countries. The amount of resources spent per homeless and crime-commiting citizen is world class. What do you think is missing in terms of social safety net?
- Tiktaalik 5y agoLiterally exactly what I said. Homes. Safe supply. There's thousands of homeless in SF. Poverty is growing over time. If the safety net was good you would not have street homeless.
- friedman23 5y agoYou figured it out
- BobbyJo 5y agoLack of a safety net is not what brings these people to San Francisco.