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It is normal to worry about smash and grabs in every US urban area I've ever lived in or visited.

dcolkitt 5y ago
San Francisco has the worst property crime rate of any major city in America.[1] It's more than three times worse than what you'd find in New York, Boston or San Diego. It's even about twice as bad as Austin, Chicago or Philadelphia, which aren't exactly known as low crime cities. Moreover the discrepancy is likely understated since so much property crime goes unreported in SF. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...
- slownews45 5y ago
  Between all my bike thefts, car thefts, window break ins etc- I reported only car theft. Crime is widely understated in SF. People will step over a dying person in SF.
  - nitrogen 5y ago
    It's not just street crime, either. The first building I lived in had its bike lockers broken into by a pro crew in masks, and tens of thousands of dollars of bikes stolen. I also forgot to mention the man screaming at the top of his lungs at a woman waiting for a bus, the coworker who fought off an attempted mugging, coming back to my car (probably at Lands End) to find one of the screws missing from the license plate, and other stuff I only heard about rather than saw. Based on this thread, there's a lot going on that people are lucky enough not to notice, or choose not to notice, but it definitely makes SF a risky choice for businesses. I probably fared as well as I did because I'm tall and didn't go out much without other people with me.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
  But ABQ still wins if you drop the "major" qualification. Sigh. NM, c'mon, we can do better. Can't we?
  - floren 5y ago
    I never felt as unsafe in any part of Albuquerque, living there for 5 years, as I do during a visit to pretty much any part of SF.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  It beats Baltimore and Chicago by a mile. Those cities are known for bad crime.
  - samatman 5y ago
    You can't directly compare SF to Chicago (I've lived in both). Chicago is still a very segregated city, and the north side is relatively safe. San Francisco is small, and while the problem areas concentrate around Civic Center / Tenderloin / SOMA, literally everything else is in walking distance, so petty property crime is quite widespread.

San Francisco has the worst property crime rate of any major city in America.[1] It's more than three times worse than what you'd find in New York, Boston or San Diego. It's even about twice as bad as Austin, Chicago or Philadelphia, which aren't exactly known as low crime cities. Moreover the discrepancy is likely understated since so much property crime goes unreported in SF. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

slownews45 5y ago
Between all my bike thefts, car thefts, window break ins etc- I reported only car theft. Crime is widely understated in SF. People will step over a dying person in SF.
- nitrogen 5y ago
  It's not just street crime, either. The first building I lived in had its bike lockers broken into by a pro crew in masks, and tens of thousands of dollars of bikes stolen. I also forgot to mention the man screaming at the top of his lungs at a woman waiting for a bus, the coworker who fought off an attempted mugging, coming back to my car (probably at Lands End) to find one of the screws missing from the license plate, and other stuff I only heard about rather than saw. Based on this thread, there's a lot going on that people are lucky enough not to notice, or choose not to notice, but it definitely makes SF a risky choice for businesses. I probably fared as well as I did because I'm tall and didn't go out much without other people with me.
PaulDavisThe1st 5y ago
But ABQ still wins if you drop the "major" qualification. Sigh. NM, c'mon, we can do better. Can't we?
- floren 5y ago
  I never felt as unsafe in any part of Albuquerque, living there for 5 years, as I do during a visit to pretty much any part of SF.
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
It beats Baltimore and Chicago by a mile. Those cities are known for bad crime.
- samatman 5y ago
  You can't directly compare SF to Chicago (I've lived in both). Chicago is still a very segregated city, and the north side is relatively safe. San Francisco is small, and while the problem areas concentrate around Civic Center / Tenderloin / SOMA, literally everything else is in walking distance, so petty property crime is quite widespread.