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How about not calling this the male gaze? If we're trying to remove bias FFS.
by Nick87633 5y ago
How about not calling this the male gaze? If we're trying to remove bias FFS.
- krapp 5y agoThe article says the algorithm was trained on eye tracking data, and if the predominance of data came from men then referring to the male gaze as a possible source of unintended bias seems valid.
- Nick87633 5y agoThe article puts "male gaze" in quotes and there is a Wikipedia page about the meaning it has in common usage about gender discussion. It's disappointing that Twitter is trying to deflect blame for their failures onto "men". [Edit - this is inaccurate]
- dragonwriter 5y ago> It's disappointing that Twitter is trying to deflect blame for their failures onto "men". They...aren’t. Leaving aside the question fo whether identifying the “male gaze” as a cobtributor to problems with the algorithm’s output would be blame passing when the entire context is taking responsibility for and addressing problems resulting from the choice of algorithm (hint: no, it wouldn’t), they initially identified that as a potential thing the saliency algorithm might* be biased for, constructed a test, and determined it was not a factor, so they are saying “male gaze” wasn’t a problem. Kneejerk reactions to the use of the phrase without considering anything about what it is being used to say aren't helpful.
- Nick87633 5y agoYou're right, I went back and reread the post. I retract my statement about deflecting responsibility.