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I think Google's plan was to get the other parties to pay more for the group of patents than what the original price was (~$1.5B). They probably decided that t

by nikcub 15y ago

I think Google's plan was to get the other parties to pay more for the group of patents than what the original price was (~$1.5B). They probably decided that they may as well have some fun with it in the meantime (although google has a history of using mathematical significant figures in financial dealings, such as in their S1 filing)

__rkaup__ 15y ago
Does that happen often in business?
- zipdog 15y ago
  There was a multi-million dollar contract in Japan a few years ago decided by a single hand of Rock Paper Scissors.
  - binarycheese 15y ago
    That's classic. Any references will be appreciated.
    - archangel_one 15y ago
      Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_paper_scissors#Auction_house_rock-paper-scissors_match http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_paper_scissors#Auction_hou...
- nikcub 15y ago
  apparently happens a lot during spectrum auctions which is why they refined the auction system
  - dtegart 15y ago
    here is a good study on that [pdf] http://www.cramton.umd.edu/papers2000-2004/00jre-collusive-bidding-lessons.pdf http://www.cramton.umd.edu/papers2000-2004/00jre-collusive-b... Essentially people try and convey information to the other bidders through the amounts of their bid. Like putting an area code at the end of a large bid to indicate that is the market you want.
- hi5at5 15y ago
  I think it happens a fair amount. Google may have actually wanted the patents at he right price, but may have wanted its competing bidders to overpay if it couldn't win the bid. The aricle said there were about 6,000 patents. I suppose some of them might be ground breaking tech but most are probably worthless or science projects at best. At $4.5 billion, this winning bid sounds like a winner's cure to me. I think Google has some good game theoriests who artificially drove up the price for it's competitors. But who knows, maybe they really wanted to pay up to $4 billion and were genuinely disappointed when they didn't win.

by nikcub 15y ago

__rkaup__ 15y ago

Does that happen often in business?

zipdog 15y ago
There was a multi-million dollar contract in Japan a few years ago decided by a single hand of Rock Paper Scissors.
- binarycheese 15y ago
  That's classic. Any references will be appreciated.
  - archangel_one 15y ago
    Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_paper_scissors#Auction_house_rock-paper-scissors_match http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_paper_scissors#Auction_hou...
nikcub 15y ago
apparently happens a lot during spectrum auctions which is why they refined the auction system
- dtegart 15y ago
  here is a good study on that [pdf] http://www.cramton.umd.edu/papers2000-2004/00jre-collusive-bidding-lessons.pdf http://www.cramton.umd.edu/papers2000-2004/00jre-collusive-b... Essentially people try and convey information to the other bidders through the amounts of their bid. Like putting an area code at the end of a large bid to indicate that is the market you want.
hi5at5 15y ago
I think it happens a fair amount. Google may have actually wanted the patents at he right price, but may have wanted its competing bidders to overpay if it couldn't win the bid. The aricle said there were about 6,000 patents. I suppose some of them might be ground breaking tech but most are probably worthless or science projects at best. At $4.5 billion, this winning bid sounds like a winner's cure to me. I think Google has some good game theoriests who artificially drove up the price for it's competitors. But who knows, maybe they really wanted to pay up to $4 billion and were genuinely disappointed when they didn't win.