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Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all ema

Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all email is Gmail and Gmail is all email. Even if Gmail is currently delivering the messages (for now...), other service providers have to manage spam in their own way, and TLDs are sometimes a really strong signal for message reputation. For example, 99% of email traffic from .info addresses is spam, and the other 1% is mostly spam too.

Arnavion 5y ago
I don't confuse email with gmail, thank you very much. I gave gmail as an example specifically because a) that's what I used, and b) gmail like all other big providers is anal about accepting email and quick on the trigger-finger about marking it as spam even when it does.
tablespoon 5y ago
> Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all email is Gmail and Gmail is all email. Even major services. I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address. Luckly it turns out you don't need an account to order, and I was able to use my custom domain for an unregistered checkout.
- culturestate 5y ago
  > I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address. This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses? I've noticed that some sites will specifically ban public domains from throwaway services like mailinator, but I can't recall having encountered a blanket tld ban.
  - tablespoon 5y ago
    > This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses? I wasn't using a weird TLD. It was a .us that only my family uses. I didn't try too hard to get it to work, or figure out exactly what their criteria were, but I kept getting blocked until I used my old gmail. Their customer support wasn't very helpful, either.
    - culturestate 5y ago
      Interesting. Out of curiosity, I just tried to register with one of my personal .us domains (g suite) and one of my work .com domains (fastmail) and both worked fine. Maybe they changed their validation after you submitted your case!
- brokenintuition 5y ago
  I thought I ran into the same issue with another site a few weeks ago, turns out I was just misspelling my domain name and their validation was checking that they could actually get an email to that domain.
mfkp 5y ago
Nickserv registration went to my spam folder on Protonmail, as a datapoint.

Arnavion 5y ago

I don't confuse email with gmail, thank you very much. I gave gmail as an example specifically because a) that's what I used, and b) gmail like all other big providers is anal about accepting email and quick on the trigger-finger about marking it as spam even when it does.

tablespoon 5y ago

> Email and Gmail are not perfectly congruent. An unsettling number of people now seem to be under the impression that Gmail "is" email, in the sense that all email is Gmail and Gmail is all email. Even major services. I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address. Luckly it turns out you don't need an account to order, and I was able to use my custom domain for an unregistered checkout.

culturestate 5y ago
> I tried to create an Esty account the other day, and it rejected all addresses from my Fastmail-managed personal domains, and would only take a gmail address. This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses? I've noticed that some sites will specifically ban public domains from throwaway services like mailinator, but I can't recall having encountered a blanket tld ban.
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > This must be related to the tld you're using, right? Not that Etsy only allows @gmail.com addresses? I wasn't using a weird TLD. It was a .us that only my family uses. I didn't try too hard to get it to work, or figure out exactly what their criteria were, but I kept getting blocked until I used my old gmail. Their customer support wasn't very helpful, either.
  - culturestate 5y ago
    Interesting. Out of curiosity, I just tried to register with one of my personal .us domains (g suite) and one of my work .com domains (fastmail) and both worked fine. Maybe they changed their validation after you submitted your case!
brokenintuition 5y ago
I thought I ran into the same issue with another site a few weeks ago, turns out I was just misspelling my domain name and their validation was checking that they could actually get an email to that domain.

mfkp 5y ago

Nickserv registration went to my spam folder on Protonmail, as a datapoint.