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Edge can't be automated via COM the same way IE could. I wonder what MS is offering as an upgrade path

by nikanj 5y ago

dheera 5y ago
FireFox?
- nikanj 5y ago
  Do you have any links to documentation for automating FF?
  - cpeterso 5y ago
    Some options for automating website tests in Firefox: WebDriver: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/WebDriver https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/WebDriver Marionette: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/testing/marionette/Intro.html https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/testing/marionette/I... Puppeteer: https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/04/puppeteer-3-firefox-support https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/04/puppeteer-3-firefox-suppo... I haven't used these tools, so I don't know which is "best" or why so many different tools are needed. :)
    - nikanj 5y ago
      I don’t want to run tests, I want to drive the browser for the customer. I guess it’s time to learn chrome extensions
      - cpeterso 5y ago
        Mozilla uses Marionette to automate its own browser UI testing (not just clicking on web pages).
      - chociej 5y ago
        For better or worse (better, I'd argue), I don't think browsers want you to drive the browser for the customer. My takeaway from most modern browser security developments is that if you can't do it with the standard APIs, you aren't supposed to be doing it.
saulr 5y ago
Edge supports WebDriver: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webdriver-chromium/?tabs=c-sharp#automate-microsoft-edge-chromium-with-webdriver https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webdriver-ch...
- nikanj 5y ago
  Looks like the customer would have to download the Edge driver from Microsoft, picking the right version (and supposedly update the drivers as Edge auto-updates). That's a complete non-starter, compared to automating IE that just requires our .exe to create an IE object via CoCreateInstance(CLSID_InternetExplorerMedium ...), and no additional installation by the customer organization.
lstamour 5y ago
The desktop application is deprecated. The guts of the Trident engine will live on forever… probably.
fomine3 5y ago
Microsoft Power Automate

Edge can't be automated via COM the same way IE could. I wonder what MS is offering as an upgrade path

by nikanj 5y ago

Edge can't be automated via COM the same way IE could. I wonder what MS is offering as an upgrade path

dheera 5y ago

FireFox?

nikanj 5y ago
Do you have any links to documentation for automating FF?
- cpeterso 5y ago
  Some options for automating website tests in Firefox: WebDriver: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/WebDriver https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/WebDriver Marionette: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/testing/marionette/Intro.html https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/testing/marionette/I... Puppeteer: https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/04/puppeteer-3-firefox-support https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/04/puppeteer-3-firefox-suppo... I haven't used these tools, so I don't know which is "best" or why so many different tools are needed. :)
  - nikanj 5y ago
    I don’t want to run tests, I want to drive the browser for the customer. I guess it’s time to learn chrome extensions
    - cpeterso 5y ago
      Mozilla uses Marionette to automate its own browser UI testing (not just clicking on web pages).
    - chociej 5y ago
      For better or worse (better, I'd argue), I don't think browsers want you to drive the browser for the customer. My takeaway from most modern browser security developments is that if you can't do it with the standard APIs, you aren't supposed to be doing it.

saulr 5y ago

Edge supports WebDriver: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webdriver-chromium/?tabs=c-sharp#automate-microsoft-edge-chromium-with-webdriver https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webdriver-ch...

nikanj 5y ago
Looks like the customer would have to download the Edge driver from Microsoft, picking the right version (and supposedly update the drivers as Edge auto-updates). That's a complete non-starter, compared to automating IE that just requires our .exe to create an IE object via CoCreateInstance(CLSID_InternetExplorerMedium ...), and no additional installation by the customer organization.

lstamour 5y ago

The desktop application is deprecated. The guts of the Trident engine will live on forever… probably.

fomine3 5y ago

Microsoft Power Automate