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That's a real end of an era. Internet Explorer's legacy engine is going to be relegated to old grayhair horror stories. Not unhappy it's going away, but it feel

That's a real end of an era. Internet Explorer's legacy engine is going to be relegated to old grayhair horror stories. Not unhappy it's going away, but it feels like a big chapter is closing.

coldpie 5y ago
Rest in peace, <!--[if lte IE 6]>
JohnBooty 5y ago
relegated to old grayhair horror stories. The real shame of IE's passing is that we'll forget the lessons we learned and therefore repeat that particular disaster. It's already happening. I'd be happy to relegate the nightmare of IE to old war stories... except the same thing is happening today! Different method, nearly the same end result. We nearly lost the damn open web to the horror of IE6 and the peak "embrace, extend, extinguish" version of Microsoft. Now, of course, we're happily creating another browser monoculture and handing the web over to Google. This time, we're doing it with a smile instead of a grimace. Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed.
- reificator 5y ago
  > Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed. IE6 was also a good browser. It didn't stay a good browser over the 5-10-15 year lifespan it had (depending on who you ask) but at the time of release it was easily the best.
  - rstupek 5y ago
    Unquestionably the best at the time.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    Arguably the best user experience in some ways- relative to other browsers at the time it "felt fast". Partly because it used native widgets instead of XUL like Mozilla, and also probably because various parts of it probably were loaded when Windows booted up. But it was pretty bad in other ways: security, stability, etc.
- petre 5y ago
  You forgot about Safari, although it's not as atrociuos as IE was.
- gogopuppygogo 5y ago
  Chromium is open source… Seems like a better approach in every way than the old mosaic/trident closed source mess.
  - JohnBooty 5y ago
    There are obvious benefits to Chromium being open-source, but you're kidding yourself if you think that gives you an ounce of control over the direction of web standards and the web as a whole. Sure, you can look at (most of) Chrome's source code, and fork it all day long if you want. But it will amount to little when it comes to actual control of the web. You simply won't have the marketshare to steer the direction of the web standards themselves. The end result will be the same as we suffered with IE's dominance: de facto control of the web by a single entity. But at least the ride to hell will be nicer.
    - chociej 5y ago
      The more I see distasteful things happening around Chromium, the more exclusively I use Firefox these days. And frankly I have had vanishingly few problems using FF alone.
Angius 5y ago
Now it passes the torch of shitty feature support to Safari

That's a real end of an era. Internet Explorer's legacy engine is going to be relegated to old grayhair horror stories. Not unhappy it's going away, but it feels like a big chapter is closing.

coldpie 5y ago

Rest in peace, <!--[if lte IE 6]>

JohnBooty 5y ago

relegated to old grayhair horror stories. The real shame of IE's passing is that we'll forget the lessons we learned and therefore repeat that particular disaster. It's already happening. I'd be happy to relegate the nightmare of IE to old war stories... except the same thing is happening today! Different method, nearly the same end result. We nearly lost the damn open web to the horror of IE6 and the peak "embrace, extend, extinguish" version of Microsoft. Now, of course, we're happily creating another browser monoculture and handing the web over to Google. This time, we're doing it with a smile instead of a grimace. Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed.

reificator 5y ago
> Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed. IE6 was also a good browser. It didn't stay a good browser over the 5-10-15 year lifespan it had (depending on who you ask) but at the time of release it was easily the best.
- rstupek 5y ago
  Unquestionably the best at the time.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  Arguably the best user experience in some ways- relative to other browsers at the time it "felt fast". Partly because it used native widgets instead of XUL like Mozilla, and also probably because various parts of it probably were loaded when Windows booted up. But it was pretty bad in other ways: security, stability, etc.
petre 5y ago
You forgot about Safari, although it's not as atrociuos as IE was.
gogopuppygogo 5y ago
Chromium is open source… Seems like a better approach in every way than the old mosaic/trident closed source mess.
- JohnBooty 5y ago
  There are obvious benefits to Chromium being open-source, but you're kidding yourself if you think that gives you an ounce of control over the direction of web standards and the web as a whole. Sure, you can look at (most of) Chrome's source code, and fork it all day long if you want. But it will amount to little when it comes to actual control of the web. You simply won't have the marketshare to steer the direction of the web standards themselves. The end result will be the same as we suffered with IE's dominance: de facto control of the web by a single entity. But at least the ride to hell will be nicer.
  - chociej 5y ago
    The more I see distasteful things happening around Chromium, the more exclusively I use Firefox these days. And frankly I have had vanishingly few problems using FF alone.

Angius 5y ago

Now it passes the torch of shitty feature support to Safari