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Lukka and others wanted to bring Ted Nelson's dream into reality using open source (GZigZag). Ted Nelson fucked them over. After giving permission he suddenly s
by nabla9 5y ago
Lukka and others wanted to bring Ted Nelson's dream into reality using open source (GZigZag). Ted Nelson fucked them over. After giving permission he suddenly started to assert trademark and patent rights.
"It is a sad story. It is an infuriating story." http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/233#comment-1715 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/233#comment-1715
- tangentstorm 5y agoHappily, Nelson's patent has finally expired. :) https://patents.google.com/patent/US6262736 https://patents.google.com/patent/US6262736
- joshgrib 5y agoI was thinking this was a data structure, but based on the patent it's actually more a user interface design to explore data > What is claimed is: > 1. A method for visualizing data on a display, comprising: > ... In other words it seems like it could replace a spreadsheet as a way to explore data, but not _necessarily_ by storing the data any differently
- mindcrime 5y agoFWIW, some portion of what was Xanadu apparently finally made it to the OSS world. See: http://open.xanadu.com/ http://open.xanadu.com/ I haven't looked at it much, so not sure quite what the state of it all is.
- astrange 5y agoI wasn't expecting a site from 1999 from that "finally".
- mindcrime 5y agoWell, consider that Xanadu itself dates back to like the 1960's or something... I don't remember all the details off-hand. That said, I thought the Udanax stuff came later than 1999 as well. I wouldn't even have noticed the 1999 reference if you hadn't pointed it out just now! Mandela moment for me? Hmmm.