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*Hamas rocket fire

flyinglizard 5y ago
Hamas is the legitimately elected representative of the Palestinians in Gaza. They were voted into power in 2006 and act as the Gazan sovereign. We can agree on "Gazan rocket fire".
- snicker7 5y ago
  2006 was 15 years ago
  - chrismcb 5y ago
    And yet that was the last time the was an election (at least for the top officials)
Pet_Ant 5y ago
> *Hamas rocket fire This is the rub really. The militants aren't formally part of the government, the aren't broadly supported, but they are tolerated. People don't fully agree with them... or disagree with them. My mental model is the de facto soft semi-decriminalization of marajuana that was in places in many states before 10 years or so. ...like most of the Middle East: it's complicated.
- pliny 5y ago
  Hamas is the government in Gaza.
  - Pet_Ant 5y ago
    I was under the impression that the militant wing was only loosely affiliated with the political wing. There was discussion after 2001 when they were updating the list of terrorist organizations.
- akarma 5y ago
  The Middle East is very complicated, but this is hard to read as anything but misinformation. In the last legislative election in Palestine, Hamas received 44.45% of the vote to Fatah's 41.43% and gained a majority of the seats in the PLC [1]. Although Palestinian trust levels for Hamas are even slightly lower than Fatah, Hamas's actions over the past month are gaining broad Palestinian support [2]. There's people on both sides who want to see the conflict end, and people on both sides who are approving of the conflict (more so on the Palestinian side which feels scorned over the past 80 years). It is Hamas rocket fire and IDF rocket fire. There are other sides against this conflict and escalation, but to claim that this is not government action or approved of by large swathes of the population is incorrect. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_e... [2] https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2021/0517/For-Hamas-the-war-is-in-Gaza-but-Jerusalem-is-the-prize https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2021/0517/For-Ha...

*Hamas rocket fire

Hamas is the legitimately elected representative of the Palestinians in Gaza. They were voted into power in 2006 and act as the Gazan sovereign. We can agree on "Gazan rocket fire".

snicker7 5y ago
2006 was 15 years ago
- chrismcb 5y ago
  And yet that was the last time the was an election (at least for the top officials)

Pet_Ant 5y ago

> *Hamas rocket fire This is the rub really. The militants aren't formally part of the government, the aren't broadly supported, but they are tolerated. People don't fully agree with them... or disagree with them. My mental model is the de facto soft semi-decriminalization of marajuana that was in places in many states before 10 years or so. ...like most of the Middle East: it's complicated.

pliny 5y ago
Hamas is the government in Gaza.
- Pet_Ant 5y ago
  I was under the impression that the militant wing was only loosely affiliated with the political wing. There was discussion after 2001 when they were updating the list of terrorist organizations.
akarma 5y ago
The Middle East is very complicated, but this is hard to read as anything but misinformation. In the last legislative election in Palestine, Hamas received 44.45% of the vote to Fatah's 41.43% and gained a majority of the seats in the PLC [1]. Although Palestinian trust levels for Hamas are even slightly lower than Fatah, Hamas's actions over the past month are gaining broad Palestinian support [2]. There's people on both sides who want to see the conflict end, and people on both sides who are approving of the conflict (more so on the Palestinian side which feels scorned over the past 80 years). It is Hamas rocket fire and IDF rocket fire. There are other sides against this conflict and escalation, but to claim that this is not government action or approved of by large swathes of the population is incorrect. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_e... [2] https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2021/0517/For-Hamas-the-war-is-in-Gaza-but-Jerusalem-is-the-prize https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2021/0517/For-Ha...