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Every community IS different. Amish hold Sunday meeting in their homes, rotating who hosts. Therefore, everyone in the community must live within a practical bu

Every community IS different. Amish hold Sunday meeting in their homes, rotating who hosts. Therefore, everyone in the community must live within a practical buggy ride of each other. The community elects a bishop. The bishop has final say for that community. So.... lots of variation in the nuances of rules between communities. “Live in the world without being of the world.” There are many interpretations of that.

jghn 5y ago
Yep. I went to a Mennonite wedding a few years back and the thing that struck me was just how much perceived variation there was within the larger Anabaptist community vs how much real variation there was. There were noticeable differences community to community, often less than a mile away. Things like their stance on modern technology, plain dress, etc. At the same time it was considered a huge deal that the bride & groom came from different communities as they had conflicting theological views. I forget the key difference but it was something smaller than I experienced as a child whenever we'd change Roman Catholic Churches.
- kazen44 5y ago
  > we'd change Roman Catholic Churches just curious what do you mean by changing Roman Catholic churches? As far as i know there is only one roman catholic church, but with different dogma's depending on region.
  - User23 5y ago
    There are many churches in full communion with Rome that are not Roman[1]. [1] https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/20/are-they-really-catholic-part-i/ https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/20/are-they-really-cath...
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > There are many churches in full communion with Rome that are not Roman[1]. No there aren’t; your source seems to have confused the descriptor “Roman Catholic Church” which refers to the entire body in union with Rome for what is usually described, where it needs to be distinguished, as “Latin Church” [0], the autonomous particular sui iuris church within the Roman Catholic headed by the Patriarch of Rome (who, as Pope, is also head of the entire Roman Catholic Church, with superceding authority over the heads of the sui iuris churches.) [0] formerly also commonly “Western...” but the use of that descriptor has since been fairly authoritatively declared as no longer approrpriate.
      - skissane 5y ago
        The term "Roman" in "Roman Catholic" is ambiguous. Some people read it as meaning "in communion with the Bishop of Rome", other people read it as meaning "Latin Church" ("Latin Rite", "Roman Rite", etc). The Eastern Catholic Churches are Roman in the first sense but not the second. In my experience, some Eastern Catholics reject the term "Roman Catholic" as a descriptor for themselves because they associate the phrase with the second definition not the first. Given that, I'm not inclined to agree with you that the "Roman Catholic=Latin Catholic" usage is wrong, it's just different.
  - prewett 5y ago
    "Church" often means "congregation", so he probably meant changing parishes, emphasizing that although the broader denomination remained the same, individual parishes/congregations/churches were often substantially different.
  - jghn 5y ago
    As prewett said, I was referring to individual parishes. I didn't mean to capitalize the `C` in `Churches` which perhaps added to the confusion. Whenever we'd shift parishes due to moving or whatever there was always very slight & subtle differences. For instance, this was all post Vatican II but close enough that some were very much still old timey in feel and others felt more contemporary. Another example stems from the homilies the priests would give, each individual would have their own spin on things and that can have a huge impact on atmosphere. Specifically what I meant by my comment: my recollection was that some of the key differences in those anabaptist congregations I mentioned tied to physical layout during service. Who sat where, who stood where, etc. Those were the sorts of things that was always a bit different parish to parish in my experience attending mass at a number of RC parishes.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > As far as i know there is only one roman catholic church, but with different dogma's depending on region. There is one Roman Catholic Church and its dogmas (and even mere doctrines) are the same everywhere. There are several autonomous particular churches sui iuris within the Roman Catholic Church, and within them many local particular churches, and within them many smaller units called churches, all of which vary in a greater or lesser extent in practices and traditions (but not dogma or doctrine.)
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jghn 5y ago

Yep. I went to a Mennonite wedding a few years back and the thing that struck me was just how much perceived variation there was within the larger Anabaptist community vs how much real variation there was. There were noticeable differences community to community, often less than a mile away. Things like their stance on modern technology, plain dress, etc. At the same time it was considered a huge deal that the bride & groom came from different communities as they had conflicting theological views. I forget the key difference but it was something smaller than I experienced as a child whenever we'd change Roman Catholic Churches.

kazen44 5y ago
> we'd change Roman Catholic Churches just curious what do you mean by changing Roman Catholic churches? As far as i know there is only one roman catholic church, but with different dogma's depending on region.
- User23 5y ago
  There are many churches in full communion with Rome that are not Roman[1]. [1] https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/20/are-they-really-catholic-part-i/ https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/20/are-they-really-cath...
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > There are many churches in full communion with Rome that are not Roman[1]. No there aren’t; your source seems to have confused the descriptor “Roman Catholic Church” which refers to the entire body in union with Rome for what is usually described, where it needs to be distinguished, as “Latin Church” [0], the autonomous particular sui iuris church within the Roman Catholic headed by the Patriarch of Rome (who, as Pope, is also head of the entire Roman Catholic Church, with superceding authority over the heads of the sui iuris churches.) [0] formerly also commonly “Western...” but the use of that descriptor has since been fairly authoritatively declared as no longer approrpriate.
    - skissane 5y ago
      The term "Roman" in "Roman Catholic" is ambiguous. Some people read it as meaning "in communion with the Bishop of Rome", other people read it as meaning "Latin Church" ("Latin Rite", "Roman Rite", etc). The Eastern Catholic Churches are Roman in the first sense but not the second. In my experience, some Eastern Catholics reject the term "Roman Catholic" as a descriptor for themselves because they associate the phrase with the second definition not the first. Given that, I'm not inclined to agree with you that the "Roman Catholic=Latin Catholic" usage is wrong, it's just different.
- prewett 5y ago
  "Church" often means "congregation", so he probably meant changing parishes, emphasizing that although the broader denomination remained the same, individual parishes/congregations/churches were often substantially different.
- jghn 5y ago
  As prewett said, I was referring to individual parishes. I didn't mean to capitalize the `C` in `Churches` which perhaps added to the confusion. Whenever we'd shift parishes due to moving or whatever there was always very slight & subtle differences. For instance, this was all post Vatican II but close enough that some were very much still old timey in feel and others felt more contemporary. Another example stems from the homilies the priests would give, each individual would have their own spin on things and that can have a huge impact on atmosphere. Specifically what I meant by my comment: my recollection was that some of the key differences in those anabaptist congregations I mentioned tied to physical layout during service. Who sat where, who stood where, etc. Those were the sorts of things that was always a bit different parish to parish in my experience attending mass at a number of RC parishes.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > As far as i know there is only one roman catholic church, but with different dogma's depending on region. There is one Roman Catholic Church and its dogmas (and even mere doctrines) are the same everywhere. There are several autonomous particular churches sui iuris within the Roman Catholic Church, and within them many local particular churches, and within them many smaller units called churches, all of which vary in a greater or lesser extent in practices and traditions (but not dogma or doctrine.)

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