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I am not advocating for XMPP, nor am I nagging you. You showed up to advocate Matrix on a thread about IRC, stop accusing me of things and collaborate yourself

I am not advocating for XMPP, nor am I nagging you. You showed up to advocate Matrix on a thread about IRC, stop accusing me of things and collaborate yourself instead of reinventing the wheel in terms of specs and in terms of standards bodies. Everything I said about the company and foundation is accurate as far as I can tell. I am very glad there is a foundation, but it's still not okay: submit to an existing standards body and stop advertising on threads about IRC.

webmaven 5y ago
Negging != Nagging https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negging https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negging
- SamWhited 5y ago
  Oops; either way, I was doing neither. They asked, I answered, then they had a hissy fit because it turns out they're apparently the CEO trying to score some users. Let's just end this line of discussion and keep it related to IRC and stop talking about Matrix.
  - samsquire 5y ago
    I think you're being completely unreasonable. They didn't have a hissy fit. You're trying to moderate discussion that you don't like, because it's not about IRC. Matrix is relevant in a discussion about IRC because it's a valid alternative. You can't police natural and useful discussion you don't like.
    - SamWhited 5y ago
      Fair enough, I shouldn't use such strong language. That being said, the CEO of a company making money off Matrix showed up to advertise, then complained about how I hadn't disclosed that I do some volunteer work at the XSF while simultaneously not disclosing that they have an entire company based on the thing they're asking about). That seems rather egregious and made me quite mad. My original answer I still think was perfectly reasonable too. All that being said, you're right, I shouldn't get drawn in every time this person (whom I've just realized is the same person who goes by another name elsewhere) jumps in on every chat across the internet trying to advertise their product. My own fault for getting drawn in and using language like "hissy fit" that is, as you said, unreasonable. I'm sorry about that.
      - samsquire 5y ago
        It's okay dude, don't worry about it. We're all only human. Thank you for working on XMPP

webmaven 5y ago

Negging != Nagging https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negging https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negging

SamWhited 5y ago
Oops; either way, I was doing neither. They asked, I answered, then they had a hissy fit because it turns out they're apparently the CEO trying to score some users. Let's just end this line of discussion and keep it related to IRC and stop talking about Matrix.
- samsquire 5y ago
  I think you're being completely unreasonable. They didn't have a hissy fit. You're trying to moderate discussion that you don't like, because it's not about IRC. Matrix is relevant in a discussion about IRC because it's a valid alternative. You can't police natural and useful discussion you don't like.
  - SamWhited 5y ago
    Fair enough, I shouldn't use such strong language. That being said, the CEO of a company making money off Matrix showed up to advertise, then complained about how I hadn't disclosed that I do some volunteer work at the XSF while simultaneously not disclosing that they have an entire company based on the thing they're asking about). That seems rather egregious and made me quite mad. My original answer I still think was perfectly reasonable too. All that being said, you're right, I shouldn't get drawn in every time this person (whom I've just realized is the same person who goes by another name elsewhere) jumps in on every chat across the internet trying to advertise their product. My own fault for getting drawn in and using language like "hissy fit" that is, as you said, unreasonable. I'm sorry about that.
    - samsquire 5y ago
      It's okay dude, don't worry about it. We're all only human. Thank you for working on XMPP