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Overall, I would pick XMPP over Matrix at this point. it is rather bloated and the clients are a little bit obtuse for newbies. I do wonder what the DAU for Mat

by jrwr 5y ago

Overall, I would pick XMPP over Matrix at this point. it is rather bloated and the clients are a little bit obtuse for newbies. I do wonder what the DAU for Matrix is at this point. as I suspect that 32 Million number might be a little overstated.

Arathorn 5y ago
frankly, as long as folks are communicating via open standards rather than being locked into some vendor silo then they should use whatever protocol works best for them - XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days. Based on the phone-home stats in Synapse there's around 300K DAU currently on the network, but this is a major underestimate given other stats which suggest only about 30% of public servers enable phone-home.
- zaik 5y ago
  > XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days Does Matrix support OMEMO for e2e encryption?
  - Arathorn 5y ago
    Yup, OMEMO and Olm are bit compatible. In fact XEP-0384 went through a phase of recommending Olm as the implementation to use (grep https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html for Olm). (Although the bifrost bridge doesn't currently implement E2EE - and it would have to reencrypt anyway to turn the Matrix event payloads into XMPP stanzas and vice versa)
- haasn 5y ago
  > XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days. I want to test this claim. After an hour of google searching I'm none the wiser: 1. Can I bridge private messages, or just MUCs? I use XMPP only to keep in contact with friends that use XMPP. I would love to integrate them into a single client, but afaict it does not appear possible. 2. Do I have to run my own XMPP bridge, or is there some automatic integration service I'm completely missing? For comparison, the experience of bridging a matrix room to IRC was as easy as clicking "add new bridge" in the Element UI.

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Overall, I would pick XMPP over Matrix at this point. it is rather bloated and the clients are a little bit obtuse for newbies. I do wonder what the DAU for Mat

by jrwr 5y ago

Arathorn 5y ago
frankly, as long as folks are communicating via open standards rather than being locked into some vendor silo then they should use whatever protocol works best for them - XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days. Based on the phone-home stats in Synapse there's around 300K DAU currently on the network, but this is a major underestimate given other stats which suggest only about 30% of public servers enable phone-home.
- zaik 5y ago
  > XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days Does Matrix support OMEMO for e2e encryption?
  - Arathorn 5y ago
    Yup, OMEMO and Olm are bit compatible. In fact XEP-0384 went through a phase of recommending Olm as the implementation to use (grep https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0384.html for Olm). (Although the bifrost bridge doesn't currently implement E2EE - and it would have to reencrypt anyway to turn the Matrix event payloads into XMPP stanzas and vice versa)
- haasn 5y ago
  > XMPP & Matrix bridge together fairly well these days. I want to test this claim. After an hour of google searching I'm none the wiser: 1. Can I bridge private messages, or just MUCs? I use XMPP only to keep in contact with friends that use XMPP. I would love to integrate them into a single client, but afaict it does not appear possible. 2. Do I have to run my own XMPP bridge, or is there some automatic integration service I'm completely missing? For comparison, the experience of bridging a matrix room to IRC was as easy as clicking "add new bridge" in the Element UI.