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23. Been using IRC on and off since I was 14.

dspillett 5y ago
So since ~2012. I've not used IRC since before then so maybe things have been relatively calm in those nine years, but IRC has been around since 1988 and has a long history of drama arguably starting with the first big split in 1990. While not caring to know the details of past drama is fine, to be _completely_ unaware of it seems both rather myopic and somewhat naive IMO. Have you never taken any interest in the history of the tools you use or the Internet generally? <snark type="unneccesary" how-unneccesary="probably completely" style="hyperbole-level:calc(Godwin-2); old-man-shouting-at:clouds;">I've not been aware of any world wars since I joined the world in 1978, have any really happened?</snark>
- yakubin 5y ago
  I didn't write that IRC was devoid of drama. I wrote it's the first one I'm hearing about. As in, know what it's about. Vaguely knowing that there probably was some drama in the past is another thing entirely. There is a lot more drama in more mainstream parts of the Internet, which is where my surprise at the mention of it comes from. I also think you're taking it too seriously. Internet drama is a relatively unimportant thing in life. Wars on the other hand... Internet drama has the importance of celebrity gossip. > Have you never taken any interest in the history of the tools you use or the Internet generally? I did take interest in the history of some of the tools. It doesn't mean I explore the history of all of them, or that this history is particularly valuable knowledge. What you learn this way is mostly just shallow trivia. E.g. knowing why strncpy works the way it works with regard to '\0' isn't knowledge that deepens your understanding of anything; it's just trivia. But sometimes it's a pleasant way to mindlessly, idly spend your time.
  - dspillett 5y ago
    Fair enough, but your "first I've heard of..." comment implied (to my mind) that you considered yourself aware enough of IRCs history that you not having heard of previous matters is significant.

So since ~2012. I've not used IRC since before then so maybe things have been relatively calm in those nine years, but IRC has been around since 1988 and has a long history of drama arguably starting with the first big split in 1990. While not caring to know the details of past drama is fine, to be _completely_ unaware of it seems both rather myopic and somewhat naive IMO. Have you never taken any interest in the history of the tools you use or the Internet generally? <snark type="unneccesary" how-unneccesary="probably completely" style="hyperbole-level:calc(Godwin-2); old-man-shouting-at:clouds;">I've not been aware of any world wars since I joined the world in 1978, have any really happened?</snark>

yakubin 5y ago
I didn't write that IRC was devoid of drama. I wrote it's the first one I'm hearing about. As in, know what it's about. Vaguely knowing that there probably was some drama in the past is another thing entirely. There is a lot more drama in more mainstream parts of the Internet, which is where my surprise at the mention of it comes from. I also think you're taking it too seriously. Internet drama is a relatively unimportant thing in life. Wars on the other hand... Internet drama has the importance of celebrity gossip. > Have you never taken any interest in the history of the tools you use or the Internet generally? I did take interest in the history of some of the tools. It doesn't mean I explore the history of all of them, or that this history is particularly valuable knowledge. What you learn this way is mostly just shallow trivia. E.g. knowing why strncpy works the way it works with regard to '\0' isn't knowledge that deepens your understanding of anything; it's just trivia. But sometimes it's a pleasant way to mindlessly, idly spend your time.
- dspillett 5y ago
  Fair enough, but your "first I've heard of..." comment implied (to my mind) that you considered yourself aware enough of IRCs history that you not having heard of previous matters is significant.