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Germany is about 35% reincarceration rate after 3 years, and US is about 29%, Although there are strong caveats, and like for like data doesn't exist. After 5

Germany is about 35% reincarceration rate after 3 years, and US is about 29%, Although there are strong caveats, and like for like data doesn't exist. After 5 years US rate goes up a lot, my link doesn't have that for Germany. > Recidivism rates vary significantly around the world, and many countries have insufficient data. Rates of criminal recidivism around the world are reported to be as high as 50% and have not declined in recent years. It is challenging to compare recidivism between countries because definitions of recidivism outcomes vary from re-arrest to reoffending to reimprisonment. Within these definitions, countries differ in their inclusion of misdemeanors, fines, traffic offenses, and other crimes. Additionally, follow-up times (period after release from incarceration) are inconsistent between and within jurisdictions and vary between six months and five years. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/recidivism-rates-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/recidivis...

johannes1234321 5y ago
> Although there are strong caveats I guess one also has to look at the sort of crimes and duration of the sentences. Also somebody who got a death penalty won't come back ...
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  "somebody who got a death penalty won't come back" What percentage of the US prison population is on death row?
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    0.1 %
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  - johannes1234321 5y ago
    Of course that was the most extreme example. Let's compare "lifelong sentence" in Germany you have a high chance to get out after 15 years. (There is a mechanism for true lifelong, but that's then more of a psychiatric treatment than jail) Point is: Comparing some statistic without context is not easy
kristofferR 5y ago
Seems like a pointless statistic, as solely arresting dangerous criminals instead of scores of harmless people would likely lead to a higher recidivism rate afterwards.
- sammorrowdrums 5y ago
  100% agreed, and I shared the above only partly to provide an answer, but mostly to flag some major caveats. Another great example: "The U.S. incarceration rate is 693 per 100,000 residents —compared to 76 per 100,000 in Germany, and 69 per 100,000 in the Netherlands." There is some real academic research on the topic, but as far as international comparison goes, it's not a solved issue. For example, this paper basically concludes that countries should update their reporting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6743246/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6743246/

johannes1234321 5y ago

> Although there are strong caveats I guess one also has to look at the sort of crimes and duration of the sentences. Also somebody who got a death penalty won't come back ...

pmoriarty 5y ago
"somebody who got a death penalty won't come back" What percentage of the US prison population is on death row?
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  0.1 %
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- johannes1234321 5y ago
  Of course that was the most extreme example. Let's compare "lifelong sentence" in Germany you have a high chance to get out after 15 years. (There is a mechanism for true lifelong, but that's then more of a psychiatric treatment than jail) Point is: Comparing some statistic without context is not easy

kristofferR 5y ago

Seems like a pointless statistic, as solely arresting dangerous criminals instead of scores of harmless people would likely lead to a higher recidivism rate afterwards.

sammorrowdrums 5y ago
100% agreed, and I shared the above only partly to provide an answer, but mostly to flag some major caveats. Another great example: "The U.S. incarceration rate is 693 per 100,000 residents —compared to 76 per 100,000 in Germany, and 69 per 100,000 in the Netherlands." There is some real academic research on the topic, but as far as international comparison goes, it's not a solved issue. For example, this paper basically concludes that countries should update their reporting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6743246/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6743246/