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1st step should be to eliminate Hamas.

modo_mario 5y ago
How are they going to disappear when they're embedded in the population which isn't exactly spread out. Which isn't gonna push them out themselves when they're being ethnically cleansed from their home in many places. Israel helped nurture the Hamas of today to deal with the PLO/Fatah but regardless of whether they expected it to become what it did they won't bomb it out of existence.
- 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
  Maybe israel should stop with its apartheid policies in the first place and stop murdering children and stop expanding settlements and take responsibility of the crimes against humanity they have carried out over last 50 odd years and let Palestinians back into their homes. Maybe then there wont be a need for Hamas
  - Google234 5y ago
    If you mean let Palestinians back into their homes as opening up Israel the you are essentially destroying Israel is a state.
    - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
      So the existence of "Israel as a state" depends on Palestinians not living like humans on their own lands. Wow. That is some top level bs. I need to ask you, how about a bully takes over your home, throws you out on the street and cries self defense if you fight back. What do you do? I am asking you in particular.
      - Google234 5y ago
        No, I was assuming you were pushing for a “right of return” to Israel.
        2Gkashmiri 5y ago
        you didnt answer my question
        2Gkashmiri 5y ago
        You still havent answered my question. I thought you were eager to please your Israeli overlords but Alas.
- Google234 5y ago
  The nazis are mostly gone from Germany now, it’s possible.
  - modo_mario 5y ago
    Germany is still a country now. With fixed borders too. Germans didn't get pushed out over many years in some quest for lebensraum by Russia or so.
    - Google234 5y ago
      I wouldn’t call east Germany a real country.
2Gkashmiri 5y ago
So Hamas was "invented" in 1987. What about before that? Who was the enemy of IDF that demanded their creation, their need to pursue apartheid against Palestinians ? So assume Hamas winds down operations today, will IDF stop their bombings, stop settlements? Stop murdering children? Stop violating UN resolutions on war crimes and crimes against humanity and their expansion plan into occupied territories? Will Israel give back Palestinians the land they forcefully took from them since 1947? Where does Hamas even come into the picture you baffoon
sa-mao 5y ago
That would be unreasonable, why would Israel compromise if they don't have any pressure whatsoever, international or internal. Especially with the current right wing dominance of politics in Israel and the foolish attempts at slow annexation of the West Bank. The Palestinian's interests is into keeping and nurturing a strong resistance until there is a real support from the USA for a reasonable peace process.

How are they going to disappear when they're embedded in the population which isn't exactly spread out. Which isn't gonna push them out themselves when they're being ethnically cleansed from their home in many places. Israel helped nurture the Hamas of today to deal with the PLO/Fatah but regardless of whether they expected it to become what it did they won't bomb it out of existence.

2Gkashmiri 5y ago
Maybe israel should stop with its apartheid policies in the first place and stop murdering children and stop expanding settlements and take responsibility of the crimes against humanity they have carried out over last 50 odd years and let Palestinians back into their homes. Maybe then there wont be a need for Hamas
- Google234 5y ago
  If you mean let Palestinians back into their homes as opening up Israel the you are essentially destroying Israel is a state.
  - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
    So the existence of "Israel as a state" depends on Palestinians not living like humans on their own lands. Wow. That is some top level bs. I need to ask you, how about a bully takes over your home, throws you out on the street and cries self defense if you fight back. What do you do? I am asking you in particular.
    - Google234 5y ago
      No, I was assuming you were pushing for a “right of return” to Israel.
      - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
        you didnt answer my question
      - 2Gkashmiri 5y ago
        You still havent answered my question. I thought you were eager to please your Israeli overlords but Alas.
Google234 5y ago
The nazis are mostly gone from Germany now, it’s possible.
- modo_mario 5y ago
  Germany is still a country now. With fixed borders too. Germans didn't get pushed out over many years in some quest for lebensraum by Russia or so.
  - Google234 5y ago
    I wouldn’t call east Germany a real country.

2Gkashmiri 5y ago

So Hamas was "invented" in 1987. What about before that? Who was the enemy of IDF that demanded their creation, their need to pursue apartheid against Palestinians ? So assume Hamas winds down operations today, will IDF stop their bombings, stop settlements? Stop murdering children? Stop violating UN resolutions on war crimes and crimes against humanity and their expansion plan into occupied territories? Will Israel give back Palestinians the land they forcefully took from them since 1947? Where does Hamas even come into the picture you baffoon

sa-mao 5y ago

That would be unreasonable, why would Israel compromise if they don't have any pressure whatsoever, international or internal. Especially with the current right wing dominance of politics in Israel and the foolish attempts at slow annexation of the West Bank. The Palestinian's interests is into keeping and nurturing a strong resistance until there is a real support from the USA for a reasonable peace process.